dear satan:.
for fifty years i have attempted to serve an opposing god.
the results have been mental illness, alcoholism, and constant thoughts of suicide.
Berean you
worshipped an opposing GOD?
I hope you didn't consider selling magazines and reading the Watchtower worshipping GOD?
The results you mentinoned:
mental illness, alcoholism, and constant thoughts of suicide
are all typical consequences of trying to serve the WTBS and live up to their insane "standards".
I encourage you to profess Christ as your saviour and truly ask him into your heart before selling your soul.
it doesn't appear police know the motive for this shooting, but it seems there is a high chance it is religous terrorism.
this doctor has repeatedly put his life on the line to fight fundamentalism.
abortion provider dr. george tiller killed at church.
All right, Brother Cephus is going to jump on this gernade and get blown to bits in this thread I sure.....
OK, first off. Killing this man in his "church" is wrong. Killing him was NOT be the proper way to stop the cruel and unusual late term abortions that this Dr. Specialized doing. However, I see life as sacred no matter what side of the (female reproductive organ) it is on. I can see how someone could see this as defending an innocent life. Again, I would not go so far as to agree 100% with that but I can understand that view.
Second, this was not just an average abortion doctor. From what I read he was proud (claiming over 60,000 lives aborted) and prolific with the late term abortions in the very conservative western Kansas area. This is the same area that gave us the "God hates fags church" Westboro Baptist I think. They are protestors who go to Army funerals to tell folks their loved one died b/c homosexual sin in America. I would not be surprised if this killing leads back to them or their friends. Yes there are some seriously crazy people there. So for this Doctor to insist on being a proponent of something that is offensive and hated by most people in his community was a little reckless. I concede that legally, Dr. Tilley had every right to do his "work" in this community. I also legally have a right to hold a Ku Klux Klan ralley in Harlem (a black community) if I wanted to as well. But I consider both to be taking my life in my own hands and just plain offensive to the community. Just because you have the right to do something doesn't always mean it is right to do that thing.
I feel sorry for this "Doctor's" family and his friends that had to witness this shooting at his church. But I really beleive he choose to put himself out there. He could have moved to Kansas City or a larger city and continued his work. He had been shot and bombed before, he knew what was going to happen to him. He wanted to be a Matyr for the abortion cause, I would imagine about now he is second guessing that decision.
Allright.... go ahead begin my lynching now, posters.
i think i was 22 when that book came out.. and i remember the being at the convention remembering how much i appreciated it.. and even at that age - feeling like that book was for me.. but how do you feel about it today?.
i don't have a copy of it anymore, but i do remember it being one of the better books.. thoughts?.
I agree with Tuesday.
My Dad had to go over the chapter on Masturbation with me several times. The only thing that seemed like practical advice was when it said to lie on your side at night when you sleep. That had absolutely no effect the desire for a 14 yearold boy to spank it!
The book was crap like everything else and all of the scenarios were practical and unrealistic. Especially the advice on how to deal with Bully's and stuff was completely dumb. My father really should have brought home a pair of boxing gloves. We probably would have fixed the masturbation problem and the bully problem with a good boxing session every day.
well, i came across that site and thinks it's awesome!
i wish i had thought of the idea... anyways, i'd thought i would share it with you all because a lot of jws that have left the borg end up losing all there support system.
this site makes it so that you can meet up with other people at public locations with the same interests as you.
Any one in North Texas want to do a group? Let me know email [email protected] Please.
i was reading on jwr a thread that linked to these funny indian music videos that weere "subtitled" in english (very funny if you have seen them...) and the thread author was like, "after armageddon if i get resurrected i'm totally going to direct indian music videos".
which is all sorta beside the point, but prompted me to think back and try to recall what exactly i planned to do in the new system.
you know- we all had those things we really wanted to do but were going to "wait until the new system to..." do whatever.. so: are you actually doing those things now, or were they totally unrealistic and fairytale type stuff like "riding a tiger up mt everest and snowboarding down"??
Seriously, imagine the absurdity of living forever in the human condition? My best friend a few years ago asked me what JW's believe. When I told him they don't beleive in going to Heaven but life on earth forever he freaked! He said, what kind of crap religion condems you to living forever on this earth? I want to go to Heaven and be done with this life. I thought that was a great point. Living forever at some point on earth would become torture, like Tuesday's survivorman comment.
i was reading on jwr a thread that linked to these funny indian music videos that weere "subtitled" in english (very funny if you have seen them...) and the thread author was like, "after armageddon if i get resurrected i'm totally going to direct indian music videos".
which is all sorta beside the point, but prompted me to think back and try to recall what exactly i planned to do in the new system.
you know- we all had those things we really wanted to do but were going to "wait until the new system to..." do whatever.. so: are you actually doing those things now, or were they totally unrealistic and fairytale type stuff like "riding a tiger up mt everest and snowboarding down"??
I figured I would be doing in the new system what I was doing in the old. Plotting my espcape from these crazy people!!!!!
i was reading on jwr a thread that linked to these funny indian music videos that weere "subtitled" in english (very funny if you have seen them...) and the thread author was like, "after armageddon if i get resurrected i'm totally going to direct indian music videos".
which is all sorta beside the point, but prompted me to think back and try to recall what exactly i planned to do in the new system.
you know- we all had those things we really wanted to do but were going to "wait until the new system to..." do whatever.. so: are you actually doing those things now, or were they totally unrealistic and fairytale type stuff like "riding a tiger up mt everest and snowboarding down"??
Hey lalaa I have a car!!!
most jws dread the thought of never being talked to again by a fellow "brother" or "sister".
the thought of being shunned by your flesh and blood keeps many witnesses in the religion.. is df'ing or dissasociation all that terrible?
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After my fade or apart of it was to move about 2000 miles to a new town and start fresh. I was very young, and I became involved in drug scene for a while ( I am not proud to say). I wasn't Scarface but I was pretty well connected for a while. I was surprised by how many DF'd JW women I met in that trade. We were getting high one night when I realized I was in the room for 3 DF'd women. It made me sad for them. I faded and kept all that stuff from my family I knew I had it better than the DF'd folks, why I never really figured out. I went to the JC twice while I was in my parents home. I guess if I stayed at home I would have been DF'd. Ofcourse my Father wouldn't let me really do anything to get DF'd while in his house so I guess I was gone anyways.
most jws dread the thought of never being talked to again by a fellow "brother" or "sister".
the thought of being shunned by your flesh and blood keeps many witnesses in the religion.. is df'ing or dissasociation all that terrible?
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A couple of years after pulling my fade, I wrote my DA letter. I was emotionally and mentally and being physically out for years. I wanted to formally rebuke the org. I had sister that was still in about to get married to another JW so I hesitated. Glad I did, they turned out to be cool just going through the motions. It softened my folks up a lot seeing my fade and seeing her go to college get married but not interested in more than the bare minimums. I was actually in the wedding at the KH imagine that, LOL. Privatley I have been able to criticize the org and share my true beliefs without being an Apostate. I dont' think they'd be so open to my thoughts if I DA'd. I saved my DA letter 8 years ago and recently found it. I was going to save it till the day my last parent died and send it then. If my sis stays in I guess there goes that theory. We do lots of family stuff together and they let me bring my girlfriends around like normal family. I guess I am so faded they can count it as field service time when we are having a cook out. :) It's a win-win.
has anyone heard the rumor of jw's being told to sleep in their cars before the earthquake happend?.
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I heard the Smurfs and a few Treasure Trolls were the cause of the earthquake. Something about an underground laberynth they are building to store all the apostate literature they print.
