Posts by Megachusen

The school system is designed to encourage conformity. That is why some incredibly intelligent people struggle in school -- because to be a genius is to be different.

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The Watchtower Society's Corporate Strategy for the next 5-10 years

by yadda yadda 2 in

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like any big business/corporation, the watchtower must make strategic decisions and plans for the future to survive and grow.

what is the wbts's 5-10 year corporate strategy?.

the current prime directive of the wbts is clearly expenditure/waste reduction through operational rationalisation.

Megachusen

"How could they cope with nearly everyone openly acknowledging their plight?"

They couldn't. That's why they just hide their financial problems under the guise of end times. Besides, the unwashed masses would prefer not to see the truth of the matter.

This is a dream that they don't want to wake up from.

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Everyone is missing a good chance to make a statement on this website

by LearningToFly in

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i understand we are all sick of hearing about michael jackson.

this website called the kaleidoscope factor has numerous pro-jw comments posted by obvious jw's, with few posts telling the truth about the religion.. here is the link that was posted in another post: http://traceyricksfoster.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/michael-jacksons-children-attend-local-kingdom-hall-of-jehovahs-witnesses-with-aunt/.

here is a good chance to make a statement, one which will be seen by many.. regards,.

Megachusen

What a JW circle jerk.

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Make Your Case for God's Existence

by Megachusen in

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quite a few of the ex-jw's on this site are either atheist or agnostic.

i figured that it would be interesting if the theist side could make their case for god's existence and then non-theists could either debate the points or concede, depending on the arguments given.. so, if you believe in a god, please tell us your most convincing argument for why we should aswell..

Megachusen

"Maybe they just covering up the fact that they were taken in by a mind-controlling organisation.

And don't want to admit it."

So no JW becomes an Atheist for intellectual reasons?

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Make Your Case for God's Existence

by Megachusen in

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quite a few of the ex-jw's on this site are either atheist or agnostic.

i figured that it would be interesting if the theist side could make their case for god's existence and then non-theists could either debate the points or concede, depending on the arguments given.. so, if you believe in a god, please tell us your most convincing argument for why we should aswell..

Megachusen

"Based upon their matching values of atomic mass, hydrogen becomes the Hebrew letter Yod (Y), nitrogen becomes the letter Hey (H), oxygen becomes the letter Wav (V or W), and carbon becomes Gimel (G)."

Wow, that's impressive. It's too bad it isn't true.

Greg 's whole argument is based off of numerology. He takes four elements (Hydrogen, Carbon, Nitrogen, and Oxygen) and takes their atomic numbers (which he says are 1, 5, 6, and 3) and applies the Hebrew alphabet's letters to the numbers. This gives him:

1: Yod(Y)
3: Het(H)
5: Vav(V/W)
6: Gimel(G)

The problem is 1, 5, 6, and 3 aren't the atomic masses of those four elements. The real atomic masses are as follows:

Hydrogen: 1.00794
Oxygen: 15.9994
Nitrogen: 14.0067
Carbon: 12.0107

If my understanding of the placement of the Hebrew letters in the alphabet is correct this would mean that instead of YHWG, you would get:

1: Aleph(A)
15: Nun(N)
14: Mem(M)
12: Kaf(K)

How does Greg get around this huge issue? With more bullshit numerology, of course! This is paraphrased from a critique I found on Greg's book:

The holes in his theory are very easy to spot and as wide as the Grand Canyon. Braden links the elements hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen and carbon to the Hebrew Alphabet with "atomic mass". But the respective atomic masses of these elements, which he gives as 1, 5, 6 and 3, are actually 1, 14, 16 and 12. To make the evidence fit, he has resorted to a numerological trick: 14 becomes 1 + 4 = 5; 16 becomes… well 6 (it does have 6 valence electrons though!); and 12 becomes 1 + 2 = 3. Also, the 1st letter of the Hebrew Alphabet is actually alep. Yod, the Y in his YH VG translation, is Hebrew letter number 10. But Braden justifies calling 10 a 1 because 10 = 1 + 0 = 1.

The problem with this sort of fiddling, to get the evidence to fit the theory, is that it invalidates the "statistician's probability" above. If unscientifically adding numbers together is okay, which he has done with nearly all his "evidence", then the following must be valid: nitrogen, with atomic mass 14, could equally pertain to Hebrew letter 14 (1 + 4 =5), or even letter 15 by just getting rid of the 1 as he did with oxygen; oxygen, with atomic mass 16, could also be Hebrew letter 15 (5+1=6) or Hebrew letter 16; and carbon with atomic mass 12, could also be Hebrew letter 12 or even 21 (2 + 1 =3). The link between these "alphabets" now seems more tenuous, and the 1 in 234,256 statistic starts to look a bit optimistic.

I think that sums things up quite nicely.

You asked me what more I would need? How about some real evidence.

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How many of you do a job now that you would have feared or derided when you were a JW?

by Kudra in

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like- being a cop or a stripper :p. .

i know a lot of us here are students- both feared and derided!.

how many do professional sports?

Megachusen

I'm joining the Marine Corps, if that counts.

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Make Your Case for God's Existence

by Megachusen in

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friends

quite a few of the ex-jw's on this site are either atheist or agnostic.

i figured that it would be interesting if the theist side could make their case for god's existence and then non-theists could either debate the points or concede, depending on the arguments given.. so, if you believe in a god, please tell us your most convincing argument for why we should aswell..

Megachusen

Quite a few of the ex-JW's on this site are either Atheist or Agnostic. I figured that it would be interesting if the theist side could make their case for God's existence and then non-theists could either debate the points or concede, depending on the arguments given.

So, if you believe in a God, please tell us your most convincing argument for why we should aswell.