Flower another way to look at it is that the personality of someone who has "found themselves" is simply very open with a sense of ease, not rigid to the point where you can literally see the veins bulging from their necks. Someone like that is simply refreshing to be around.
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Who am I?
by Nicolas inthis might appear as a stupid question but i still find it hard to find my real personality.
often, i try to appear as someone else and the result is that i am shy because i have the fear of the judgement of the other people.
how did you redefined yourself when you got out of the org?.
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Who am I?
by Nicolas inthis might appear as a stupid question but i still find it hard to find my real personality.
often, i try to appear as someone else and the result is that i am shy because i have the fear of the judgement of the other people.
how did you redefined yourself when you got out of the org?.
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Actually this is a very good question, one that most people don't bother to ask or won't explicitly state because it sounds corny.
The most reasonable answer I've been able to arrive at is that our personality constantly change, as does this whole concept of "I". But I'm okay with that. People can hang on to what's familiar, but sooner or later you'll probably run into some kind of conflict if that's the case.
But more to the point, I think it's a matter of allowing yourself to be who you are before the JW conditioning rather than redefining. Even for those who were raised as witnesses it is possible, I think it's just a matter of seeing our human nature.
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After JWs--NOW WHAT???
by Smoldering Wick inok, it's been four years for me since i left the jws.
i have been so busy trying to recover from the blow of leaving and losing friends, religion, a social group etc., that i haven't considered (too much) about what's next.
i mean, i've tried to be open minded and listen to other people's beliefs hoping that somewhere/sometime/something would click.
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Shut up Ashi, you're giving away my secret agenda!
I suppose that picture doesn't help bolster my credibility, but I like it that way. People can read the words for what they are.
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After JWs--NOW WHAT???
by Smoldering Wick inok, it's been four years for me since i left the jws.
i have been so busy trying to recover from the blow of leaving and losing friends, religion, a social group etc., that i haven't considered (too much) about what's next.
i mean, i've tried to be open minded and listen to other people's beliefs hoping that somewhere/sometime/something would click.
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Hi Smolder,
To be perfectly blunt, you can look for something external that you may like, but it may be somewhat superficial. If this spirituality stuff IS all within us, why do we have to go anywhere or learn anything, I mean really? Sure, you can read about different things and there's certainly nothing wrong with that, but there are a lot of people out there who searches high and low to find something that even they would agree is within themselves. That's just a little silly when you take a step back and really look at what's going on.
You can believe things - it's kind of hard to function without believing in anything. But just don't be so inflexible with your beliefs that you are closed to new perspectives. Some may go on to another religion or some belief system and there may be nothing wrong with that, but it's a matter of how you approach it. As time goes on your perspective may change again, but if you latch on to another belief system and give no real consideration to whether it makes sense, (even if "you" "like" it (for the time being)) then you're going to be in another situation where you have all this cognitive dissonance going on in your head. Just be honest with what you believe and why you believe it.
In answer to your question, I have kind of stopped searching. At this point you might say anything I learn would just be a matter of "deepening", but there are some principles that's fairly universal. And again this is the point I'm trying to make; there's nothing to search for really, you just have to see what's already here.
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Intro's quote-o-rama
by Introspection ini guess i've been inspired by stephen's quote threads, so i'm going to start one myself.. not one particular author here, just whatever i can find:.
q: why do you think that people are so protective of their egos?
why is it so hard to let go of one's ego?.
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You live in illusion and in the appearance of things. There is a Reality. You are the Reality. But you do not know it. If you wake up to that Reality, you will know that you are nothing, and, being nothing, you are everything. That is all.
-Kalu Rinpoche
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Intro's quote-o-rama
by Introspection ini guess i've been inspired by stephen's quote threads, so i'm going to start one myself.. not one particular author here, just whatever i can find:.
q: why do you think that people are so protective of their egos?
why is it so hard to let go of one's ego?.
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"True humility is the absence of anyone to be proud." -Wei Wu Wei
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Wacko Jacko = Michael the Archangel??????????
by TheApostleAK infrom the encyclopedia of heresies and heretics by leonard george.. under the section on jw's.... some members have seriously considered the possibility that popular singer michael jackson (who was once a jw himself) is the archangel michael in (very effective) disguise, preparing to inaugurate the end of history.
really??????????????????????????????????
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do any of us really leave INTACT? Dont the" BIG O"mess so well with our minds that it has left us with a "screw lose?"
Sorry I ddont wish to offend- but I have a support group for exJW & each of them do admit -it messed with their minds..How about yours?Oh sure, WHEN I left there were years of depression and stuff, but it's all better now. Whether anyone else chooses to believe that or that it's even possible is another story, though.
"No self, no problem." -A Sri Lankan monk
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Wacko Jacko = Michael the Archangel??????????
by TheApostleAK infrom the encyclopedia of heresies and heretics by leonard george.. under the section on jw's.... some members have seriously considered the possibility that popular singer michael jackson (who was once a jw himself) is the archangel michael in (very effective) disguise, preparing to inaugurate the end of history.
really??????????????????????????????????
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"You think you're bad? You ain't nuthin! You ain't nuthin!" *gets teary eyed*
"Just beat it."
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I thought this was a good description...
by taoInitiate inthe world is full of half-enlightened masters.. overly clever,.
too "sensitive" to live in the real world,.
they surround themselves with selfish pleasures,.
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Well aside from the first point, I think you have to actually have a clue about the truth and was somewhere near the Way to begin with to deviate from it. They may know they're wrong on a few points but I sincerely doubt they have a clue in the final analysis. So it seems to me it just doesn't really apply..
BTW, back in the day before there's internet as we know it there was a guy who used an acronym of T.A.O. - The Ancient One as his alias. Thought you might like that.
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Arrested for going kingdumb and dumber hall!
by D wiltshire inarrested for going kingdumb hall!.
last night (3/21) the mountain view (ca) police arrested me.. this happened as i was attending the sunnyvale congregation service meeting.. i was dfd last july and was told by the elders the conditions for reinstatement were meeting attendance, repentance along with not speaking to anyone or anyone speaking to me (shunning at its finest).
(btw, i was dfd for apostasy).
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Dave you are so funny. I can't say that I think it's the most effective way, but what happend should make any normal person think. (right, I know that's not what we're talking about..)
It does make me wonder, though: Does having Crisis of Conscience constitute disturbing a religious meeting? I suppose it could, but really what small minds - it's not like there's that much you can get from a glance, the cover only has so much on it and you'd have to really make an effort to read the contents. Of course, I suppose the reason why you got arrested is that it's their word against yours - they had a lot of witnesses.