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  Intro's quote-o-rama

  by Introspection in

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  2. medical

  i guess i've been inspired by stephen's quote threads, so i'm going to start one myself.. not one particular author here, just whatever i can find:.

  q: why do you think that people are so protective of their egos?

  why is it so hard to let go of one's ego?.

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  I might have posted this before but I don't think in this thread:

  King Arthur (or someone like that): Are all men from the future loud mouthed braggarts?

  Ash: No. Just me baby. Just me.

  -Army of Darkness
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  Admit doubts

  by Realist in

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  would a jw ever admit that s/he has doubts about the wt teachings?

  do they have the order to pretend they believe everything or could they discuss what bothers them?.

  i assume they have to pretend they think everything is dandy and the teachings logical when they speak with elders or other witnesses.

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  Lady Lee makes a good point that there's admitting doubt to yourself and admitting it to others. In any case, what this implies is that their sense of self is threatened. If you've always seen yourself as a JW, and something that identity is based on is threatened, then of course "you" are threatened, and then you get into this whole "I don't know who I am!" type of uncertainty and insecurity.

  To me it's more important to admit that you are uncertain, that you don't know, rather than that you have doubts about any particular thing. A person can have doubts regarding other things, it could be relationships or whatever. But if you come to some peace with the fact that when all that's said and done, you just don't know, then life becomes a lot easier.
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  Do you consider yourself an ex-JW?

  by Introspection in

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  i'm gonna go for the direct approach here.

  it's kind of strange to identify yourself as an ex- anything, to define yourself using a former identity as a point of reference, one that is no longer.

  in some cases you might use it to clarify your relationship, (i'm jane's ex-husband, or whatever) but again it gets weird.. i mean we don't think of ourselves as ex-kindergarteners or something do we?

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  Hi everyone,

  I think more than one of us has mentioned past experiences defining who we are today. Well, using words as a metaphor, what about seeing yourself as poetry rather than a definition? This may be vague and corny for some, but rather than living life mechanically I'm all for living life as an art, and I think that kind of outlook loosens things up a bit and allow ourselves more freedom of expression. Heck, I'm no poet, though I appreciate good poetry. Why not respond to this question in the same way? Forget that I asked a direct question, instead of responding directly respond in any way you want. You certainly don't have to respond to me or this thread either, though if you can express it online it may benefit the rest of us. Do it however you want, just don't make a Calvin Klein's commercial about it.
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  San Francisco ex-JW picnic

  by Introspection in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  saturday, june 22, 2002 from 12:00 noon until dusk - picnic for exjws in golden gate park, at lindley meadows, tables 12 & 13. bring along some food or (non-alcoholic) beverages.

  for further details, email paul-henry thomasian at [email protected]

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  Saturday, June 22, 2002 from 12:00 noon until dusk - Picnic for exJWs in Golden Gate Park, at Lindley Meadows, tables 12 & 13. Bring along some food or (non-alcoholic) beverages. For further details, email Paul-Henry Thomasian at [email protected]
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  Tips and tricks from the ladies......

  by butalbee in

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  2. relationships

  .........and men.

  how does a person get her mate back into her/his life?

  is their tips or tricks that you could share to get a man to fall deeper in love w/ you, how do you rejuvinate(sp) the spark, how do you make it always feel like the first time you've met and fell in love?

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  Listen to what you're saying, is there a way to trick someone into loving you? Is that really love?

  In my experience, if you really love someone, I mean in the absolute sense, it isn't dependent on them loving you back.
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  Finding Justice

  by MrMoe in

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  i want justice.

  but, not in the typical sense.... my life has brought to me many ups and downs, and at times the downs seemed to far out weigh the ups.

  maybe in my past life i reaped a lot of bad karma and now i am paying for it, or perhaps i am getting all of my bad luck over with early in life ---- who knows.... but either way, i want justice, and something tells me it is going to happen... soon... i feel things changing.. since me and my ex have split, i have dated several guys.

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  Hi Amanda,

  Good point about growth. I would just point out one thing, and that's that while we might outgrow our partner, it's possible to be outgrown too. I don't mean your ex of course, but I think it's simply a matter of where you end up going in your life. It is quite possible that one person is the right one for you at a specific point in time, but since then things have changed. I guess I mention this because it works both ways.. It would appear there's a tendancy for us to stop growing and settle into life as we know it once we find someone we consider our soul mate, this sense of he/she is it, this is what will make my life complete. But if only one person does this and the other keeps growing, then it is no longer the case.

  Of course, it could very well be that you're perfectly happy with each other and neither one wants to grow anymore, but there's always that chance isn't there? Now notice either it's you or the other person that outgrows the other, there's one person that moves on and the other doesn't. This is clearly not a function of the relationship between them, but of the individual. I'm glad you're looking for something deeper in life, but it seems to me it's not something you'll find in another person. Actually, that's not an accurate statement. You may find it in someone else, but I think you'll find it in yourself first, or atleast it works better that way. Even if you find it in someone else and are inspired or whatever, it just seems to me it's kind of the wrong way of going about it. I think it's great to acknowledge that if you do meet someone like that, but it seems to go back to where you're at in life. Sometimes there are people who feel like others aren't "at their level" and at other times there are people who beat themselves over not being good enough in some way. I say just live your own life, everything will fall into place naturally that way.

  Mark
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  Migraines anyone?

  by Billygoat in

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  yesterday (memorial day) i awoke to a slow, dull, thudding headache.

  it wasn't terribly bad...i ignored it really.

  neil fixed me a brunch of bacon and eggs and we sat down to eat around 12:30 or so.

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  I had a room mate who got migraines fairly often. If you're open to trying supplements, there is one particular product that worked for him. It's basically a feverfew extract but the highest standardized extract I've seen, along with some B vitamins and a couple other things. The product is Migra-Actin by Nature's Plus. He's tried other feverfew extracts (at either .6 or .8%, whereas it's 1.2% in this one) but this is the only thing that worked, and it seems like it works quite well. He's taken it at the onset of symptoms at it appears to stop it. I don't ever remember him taking it and having it fail to work.

  And just for the record, I don't own stock in the company and it's not a multi-level marketing thing. It's available retail.
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  How do you explain it to your spouse?

  by buffy in

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  i've been w/ my husband for 2 years, married for 3 months.

  he knows what i went through going throught the df process.

  he saw the horrible time i had dealing w/ loosing my family.

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  Hi Sean,

  I haven't actually had someone say that to me explicitly, but because I have dropped the whole thing completely it may be interpreted as never having really believed it. However, I was a sincere witness. To give you some idea, I only listened to Kingdom Melodies for a while, even the elder who studied with me thought that was extreme! When I watched Dateline and heard the KM's playing in the background it brought back memory of my mind state back then, all I can say is it's very much a difference of night and day.
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  How do you explain it to your spouse?

  by buffy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been w/ my husband for 2 years, married for 3 months.

  he knows what i went through going throught the df process.

  he saw the horrible time i had dealing w/ loosing my family.

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  Well, I was a baptised witness and associated with witness youths though I was not raised as one. I guess some people might say I understand generally but not really when it comes to being raised as a dub and so on. Of course I'd like to understand anyone that I care for, but if I don't understand something about their past it doesn't mean I care any less. So for me, I've decided that it is not important for people who care for me to understand. What's important to me is understanding that you care and are cared for. Besides, if you had to choose between someone caring and someone who just understands, which would you choose? If someone really loves you they wouldn't need to know or understand to care, and they won't judge you based on their lack of understanding. To me that's more profound in a way because despite not knowing about you, they care about you. That would be closer to unconditional love.

  It seems like we get this feeling that if people don't understand, then we're alone. Well, that's only true in terms of being alone in having that understanding, but not in the sense of really being alone. I guess my general rule of thumb is that in dealing with myself I try to understand, in dealing with others I try to extend that love. It's always easier to do the opposite - love yourself and understand others, you can be more objective with others and you are always there for you. I think the challenge lies in loving others and understanding yourself.

  Whoever you are, no matter how lonely,
  the world offers itself to your imagination,
  calls to you like the wild geese, harsh and exciting
  over and over announcing your place
  in the family of things -Mary Oliver

  *edited for grammar
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  Same story, just different names

  by zenpunk in

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  2. experiences

  i guess i've lurked around long enough - it's time to join my new family and tell the condensed (thank goodness) version of my experience.. my parents came into the org.

  when i was 10. it was a scary congregation in a small town.

  the po was my dad's boss and he had complete control over everyone.

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  Welcome Zenpunk. Mu.