Posts by whathehadas

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District Convention Drama Formula (modern day)

by AllTimeJeff in

remember, the gb picks the theme, approves the script, etc...... so a modern day drama will start out typically with.

husband getting home from work,.

wife has meal ready, unless she is a bad wife, which will be noted throughout the drama.

whathehadas

You funny JeffB! Hey how about gettin up during the boring symposiums and goin on a men's restroom hunt. Thanks for the Brothers who take away ALL the restrooms and give them to the sisters. They manage to leave one but good luck in finding it!

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It's Amazing!

by whathehadas in

it's amazing to me how many of the exjws no longer believe in god.

i know some of you have many reasons to believe in what you do now.

but this is a big testimony to what the wts does to people's concept of god.

whathehadas

I feel you on that J, that is strange how God is Bipolar in the the Bible. I think that since this was the first time he created man and since he chooses not to look into the future regarding mans choices, everything in life is not only a learning experience for us but for him also. The thing that gets me is if he intended the creation to be perfect. What would he, Jesus, and the rest of his Myriads and Myriads of spirit creatures be doin. Just watchin and twiddling their thumbs like a security guard watchin a empty lot at night, where the chances of anything bad happening are slim to none. Just a thought.

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It's Amazing!

by whathehadas in

it's amazing to me how many of the exjws no longer believe in god.

i know some of you have many reasons to believe in what you do now.

but this is a big testimony to what the wts does to people's concept of god.

whathehadas

It's amazing to me how many of the ExJws no longer believe in God. I know some of you have many reasons to believe in what you do now. But this is a big testimony to what the WTS does to people's concept of God. A God that is always lookin for you to do your best, always bending over for others, and keeping your head forward when you have doubts. You can believe what you believe but don't you think that it's kind of odd, that you used to spend alot of time speakin about God. I still belive in God but I had times where I wondered if he/she exists. I'm not that smart and well verse like most of you. I haven't spent anytime in researching athiests views and concepts. But I know that we are physical and to look to something that we can't see, hear, touch, or smell for guidance is quite a challenge. The FDS wants us to put our trust in them, cause they been trusted by Jehovah and Jesus to lead us. When you figure out that this trust was misplaced you lose all faith. But hey you have the freedom to choose what you want to believe. If God doesn't like it and really wants you to believe in him. Why don't he come down and prove his existance? ooh wait a minute did he do it already? Never mind, Peace ExJws and wannaBJws(Reniaa, Spike Tassel, etc)

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What Works Best on Exposing JW's? All of the above....

by AllTimeJeff in

there are some days when i log in here and because of my own views on governing body dogma (which is, its a big smelly stinky wet pile of shit), i find myself writing essays about subjects concerning how nutty their doctrines really are, how weak they are.

so i do these expose's and at the end of it, i feel better, because i know, (i know!

) that the governing body are cynical liars, and that their doctrine is total crap.. i know this is good for those who actually care enough to take up the gb on its offer to "study the deeper things", might question what they find, and want some other info... thats how it started with me.... lately however..... this other way, where you simply mock jw's.... when i first came here, i was pretty sensitive to that.

whathehadas

Man JeffB, the JW life is wretched! I'm stucked with these nuts until I can figure a way to get out. The pressure the GB puts you under by constantly promoting the field service, reaching out for positions, and meeting attendance, makes it hard for one to fade. I wish I go back in time("we gotta go back marty") and stop my @#$ from gettin in the water. I was a naive stupid shy 16yr old with no balls to say no! Why couldn't I wait till I developed critical thinking, maybe then things would be different. But No, with all the constant "reminders" to get baptize. I probably would not have made it till now. Can a Brotha shoot himself to make it end!!!!!!!

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SO LONELY SO LONELY!!

by whathehadas in

i was at the kh today, and the brother giving the talk mention this.

that while he was in the church, a popular belief by the people.

was that god was "just walkin along, got lonely and decided to create".

whathehadas

Sacolton I have the Regular Pink Lady and the Brooke Skye Lotus. Satanus they can't shun me if they don't know about it. If I had a worldly girl, this would be a automatic red light by the Elders If they found out.

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SO LONELY SO LONELY!!

by whathehadas in

i was at the kh today, and the brother giving the talk mention this.

that while he was in the church, a popular belief by the people.

was that god was "just walkin along, got lonely and decided to create".

whathehadas

I was at the KH today, and the Brother giving the talk mention this. That while he was in the church, a popular belief by the people. Was that God was "Just walkin along, got lonely and decided to create". These are not the exact words but they are along this line. He then said "as JWs who know the Truth, we know that God never gets lonely! He doesn't need us or anything to suffice him". This makes you think, IMHO that what would God be without his creation? What would Love be without something to give it to? What would Justice, Wisdom, and Power be without something to show it to? I can only conclude THAT HE NEEDED US to manifest himself/herself. But then again Why create a Spirit and Physical realm? Wouldn't either or be enough? Anyways I know I get lonely. Since I can't bring myself to find a WORDLY GIRLFRIEND and can't pay a prostitute for her services. In the mean time I will do with my Fleshlight(www.Fleshlight.com). I'm not trying to emphasize a sexual loneliness but being the Fact that I now know the Truth about the Truth. I am no longer interested in JW women. Bottom line, I need to get my ass out of this prison. Please someone shoot me!

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need help finding speech

by Watkins in

i'm trying to find the bethel graduation speech given by - i think - fred franz, wherein he disassembles the wt ideology of a centralized 'governing body' in the first century.

i've tried the search function, but must not be wording it right.. i hope you know what i'm looking for - i'm sure i've read it here, or maybe by a link from here.. thanks in advance for your help!

watkins.

whathehadas

Hey try going to his nephew's site, at www.commentarypress.com. The talk i think you're referring to is the "Tail walking the dog" speech. It's the "Governing Body" talk though on the site. You can get it in CD form or Mp3 from your computer.

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need help finding speech

by Watkins in

i'm trying to find the bethel graduation speech given by - i think - fred franz, wherein he disassembles the wt ideology of a centralized 'governing body' in the first century.

i've tried the search function, but must not be wording it right.. i hope you know what i'm looking for - i'm sure i've read it here, or maybe by a link from here.. thanks in advance for your help!

watkins.

whathehadas

Hey try going to his nephew's site, at www.commentarypress.com. The talk i think you're referring to is the "Tail walking the dog" speech. It's the "Governing Body" talk though on the site. You can get it in CD form or Mp3 from your computer.

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The Realization of Whathehadas

by whathehadas in

as a jehovah's witness, i always thought via the bible that we had all of lifes answers.

after my investigation which is not condone by the fds.

i have come to the realization that we don't have all the answers.

whathehadas

As a Jehovah's Witness, I always thought via the Bible that we had all of lifes answers. After my investigation which is not condone by the FDS. I have come to the realization that we don't have all the answers. I was fooling myself, by being led to believe that we did. No matter how much I study or research information. I will never ever get all the answers. This is a hard pill to swallow and admit. But life is filled with a ever revolving door of problems, it is what makes us evolve as humans. A world without any does seem far fetch and quite strange. Though God promises these things, one can't help but wonder. What is a World without pain,anger,sadness,and sorrow? No one here today is Perfect or has lived in a Perfect World, this is the simple Truth you can firmly attest to. I know that life is short and can be shorter depending on circumstance. As a young man(26yrs), I hope and pray that I may live a long time. Whether The End comes tommorow or sometime in the future. We can then get the answer to the problems that plague our lives. You may have your own views on life whether factual or pure speculative opinions. I for myself can only continue to learn and experience life as I know. Whether I leave the JW organization now or in the future. Thanks to all youEx JWs and JWs for opening my eyes!!!

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EVERYBODY! IS THERE GOOD LIES?

by whathehadas in

we know that jehovah/yahweh cannot lie, and that he hates a lie(pr 6:16-19).

but according to his word, it is okay to do it pertaining to his purposes.

of abraham, isaac, rahab, and elisha(gen 12:10-19,26:1-10,jos 2:1-6,jas 2:25,2 ki 6:11-23).

whathehadas

We know that Jehovah/Yahweh cannot Lie, and that he hates a lie(Pr 6:16-19). But according to his word, it is okay to do it pertaining to his purposes. See the ex. of Abraham, Isaac, Rahab, and Elisha(Gen 12:10-19,26:1-10,Jos 2:1-6,Jas 2:25,2 Ki 6:11-23). What was interesting to me about these accounts. Was that Jehovah never told them to Lie, they were just playing a role in the scheme of things. The problem though, arises as the issue of Lying. The WTS defines the Lie as Saying something False to a person who is ENTIITLED TO KNOW the truth with a hurtful intent(See the Insight book Vol 2). Staying true to this Definition, the WTS has not lied(notice the later part of the defintion) depending on your individual feelings. However one cannot SUGAR COAT the Lie, whether you classify it as "Theocratic Warfare" or "Not throwing pearls to the Swine", A Lie is still a Lie. Good Lie that protects and misdirects, Bad Lie that hexs and perplexs. Bottom Line: Is Ok to Lie period??