since i'm still suffering in this crackerjacks organization, these are some of statements that just drive me nuts.
1. in service: "we are not here to convert you" funny how jws have the true religion but resort to deception and outright lies in order to get people to listen
2. to other jws: "we won't have to deal with this in the new system" 7 billion evil doers dead and gone, no longer create problems for us
'as long as you are doing your 'all' for Jehovah he'll be happy with that'
'a career in this system is like polishing the bell on a sinking ship'
'the five meetings a week are like your five fingers keeping grip on the truth, let go of one meeting & blah blah'
'make sure you stay at the centre of the congregation for Satan is like a lion ready to pick off any stragglers'
'the best assembly ever'
'dear Jehovah thank you for your faithful & discreet slave providing this food at the proper time'
this the second half of the judicial committee meeting with the elders in which the decision is taken to "disfellowship" me.
the reasons are given at the end of the meeting.
here is the link to the audio podcast 10. here is the link to the webpage which you can leave comments on if you wish death or obedience.
Hi Matt, I'd like to say WELL DONE for keeping your cool.
I'm sure I'd have blown a fuse but the way you handled them was the better course to take.
Elders are so slippery in a JC situation.
It was chilling to hear them say they 'love' you when they were obviosly out to DF you from the start.
Do they know this recording of them is on the net?
A big hug from me too
Ed
i'm just curious as the offical govement advice about swine flu is to stay away from public areas if poss and if you have swine flu to stay from everyone full stop!.
but my experiance of jw's is that they would go to the hall wether they were infectious or not.
many is the time i've sat behind someone coughing or spluttering away!
When swine flu first became evident in the UK and it was on the cards that large gatherings may be prohibited by the government, the sentiment in my cong' was that the society would never cancel the assemblies & that bro's & sis' would still gather together despite common sense steps taken by the authorities.
Ed
watchtower 1980 15th october questions from readers.
''we can be happy, therefore, for jesus assurance.
that there will be survivors of the generation of 1914. that this generation will not have completely passed away.
5 "And whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me. 6 But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
7 "Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to sin! Such things must come, but woe to the man through whom they come!
I wonder if the writers of the Watchtower quoted above by ThomasCovenant can feel the millstone around their necks for saying such misleading things in the name of Jesus???
Jesus meant it would be better for them to face this outcome than the judgement they would receive from God.
Ed
I love Rachmaninov's music & 'The Isle of the Dead' is a favorite of mine, in fact I think I'm in the mood to put on the CD player now!
Ed
or not, as the case may be.
in-laws' family members were visiting from out of town so we went over for the evening.
my uncle-in-law is extremely religious.
Sooooo, Jehovah would be there listening as a woman is raped to hear if she screamed or not???
Perverse & warped idea of justice I'd say. Surely if I was in earshot of this violent act & I did nothing to help her but did make notes whether she 'screamed' or not, you would all think I was somewhat short of compassion?
Ed
yeah, i hated "field circus".
i don't like bothering people on saturday mornings about the latest watchtower & awake magazines and try to convert them from their religon to become a jehovah's witness.
so, what i did was just wait until the group passes by and fake knocked.
The 'pioneer walk' was a special skill learned by pioneers in my cong'
While every one else was walking a normal pace the pio's walked only half as fast & it was alright cos' the Circuit overseer said it was OK as it made the territory last.
It was like one of those special effects used in advertising when evereyone is whizzing along but the person in focus is walking normally, bizarre.
Then there was another trick the pio's used of knocking on one door in town & then walking to the next town to do a call then walking all the way back to do another.
Ed
did any of you guys ever try to "spiritually advance" by really making an effort in reaching out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.
only to be overlooked while some other brother who was honestly just a brown-noser or genuine hypocrite gets appointed.
without hardly any effort on his part?.
My father was overlooked for many many years, there was always something he had to work on just like lancelink even though he was hard working & absolutely honest in his dealings. He eventually 'made the grade' & became a MS.
Other men were appointed ahead of him that eventually caused the congregation several problems, one elder was caught claiming unemployment benefit whilst working.
However out of the blue at one meeting an anouncement was made that I had been made a MS. I was totally stunned as no one had approached me to see how I felt about it!
Also I couldn't understand how a young gay man & habitual wanker like me could've been selected by 'holy spirit' when my father had struggled for so many years to make the grade.
Ed
this year's drama was based on the parable of the prodigal son.
the theme was "your brother was dead and came to life".
as some have probably heard, it is a modern day story based on that parable, so there are no fancy costumes or fake beards.. .
Its not new the WTBTS 'trying to keep the kids at home'.
Sometime after I had bought my first home in 1978 ( I was 23) there was a portion of an assembly that said the only reason for a young person to leave home was to get married.
I wasn't married & bro's & sisters in my cong' took it for granted I would obey the direction, sell up & go back to live with my parents!!
Ed
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1790709.
behe.
The Watchtower stand that whole blood & major components of blood are out, but fractions of these components is OK is totally illogical.
However the insistance of some in the medical field that blood & ONLY BLOOD will do, is also illogical & probably caused as much time wasting in this case as the insistance on the part of the patient that bloodless treatment be used.
Ed
