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  Birthday Celebrations & other shenanigans

  by homeschool in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well, here's my latest "thing"...i plan on speaking with my siblings & their mates in the near future.

  i have told them that i have questions regarding some doctrines, mainly stuff like birthdays, mother's day, father's day, etc.

  my hubby has some questions for them regarding their wacky blood doctrine (but i wont cover that in this thread).

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  bluecanary

  Isn't there something in the Bible about Job observing his children's "days"? Someone else will have to tell you where that is.

  Thanks for organizing this info. It's great. Bookmarked.
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  Something Big Is Happening To the WT Mag.

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i looked over the aug. 1 public watchtower and noticed the same changes i observed previously.. plainly put, it appears that they have simply run out of things to say and so are just filling up printing space!.

  they devote 4 full pages to a bible reading schedule that could have been easily condensed into a couple sentences.

  they have the same large graphics and typeset that eats up printing area.

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  bluecanary

  They may institute tithing but they won't call it that. They will merely point out that everything the Israelites did was meant as a principle for us to follow. So even thought we are not under obligation to tithe, would it not be wise of us, brothers and sisters, to follow the example of faithful Israelites who gave this amount regularly? Would it not demonstrate a lack of faith to do less than this? After all, the poor widow gave all that she had, her whole means of living and this was well more than 10%.

  Driver, take this bus to Cuba.

  Sorry for the hijack.
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  Show your blood card and get a ....?

  by startingovernow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am trying to remember for what reason i had to show my blood card at a dc in the early 90's.

  the only reason it sticks out to me is i remember the comment being made from the podium that many of the cards of jws were not in fact signed, and therefore would not offer "protection.

  " the fact that some jws did not have their card signed is of interest to me too (after all, why bother having it if you don't sign it?

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  bluecanary

  Not the same thing but when I was a pioneer 10 years ago, there was a local restaurant who gave a discounted meal to ministers on Sundays. Showing your pioneer card got a discount.
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  It's Like Buying Stock in the Watchtower

  by journey-on in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm feeling sorry for some of the jw old timers.

  last time i saw brother m....., he looked down and tired.

  these born-ins and old timers bought "stock" in this company using the years of their life.

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  bluecanary

  It's a good analogy. I only wish it would help those still in see the terrible price they're paying.

  I cashed out and didn't get nearly what I put in.
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  July Awake; Hi-res scan needed

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  can anyone supply me with a hi-res scan of the infamous "changing your religion" article, please?

  it's to display on a website i'm planning..

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  bluecanary

  I just got a hold of the mag yesterday. Hope this works for you.
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  Different stance on a bible study

  by God_Delusion in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi guy's,.

  i have a friend, that like me, is an atheist.

  he is baptised and is also married to a witness.

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  bluecanary

  God_Delusion you have a pm. (The little envelope in the top right corner of the screen.)
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  is my baptisum as a minor vaild?

  by highdose in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as a young minor, barely into my teens i was in a congo that had extreme peer pressure to get baptized.

  in fact you were seen as a bad person if you didn't, and everyone else my age was, the threat was that if you were the last to get baptized of your generation then you would be seen as unspiritual.. this and some other things have troubled me since:.

  when i came to be baptized i was suffering from an illness that greatly affected my concentration.. when it came to the assembly and i had to stand and answer those two questions i was shaking so much i didn't actauly say anything, in fact my mouth wouldn't open.. i am totaly sure that if i had waited until age 30 to get baptized as jesus did, i never would have got baptized at all.. so my question is: was my baptisum actualy vaild?

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  bluecanary

  I'm going to cut and paste my talking points on minor baptism:

  Should a minor child be allowed to make a baptismal vow?

  Baptism as a Jehovah’s Witness is a binding verbal contract with the Watchtower Society. In most countries today, minors are prohibited from making any kind of contract. A child’s knowledge and ideas change dramatically between the teens and twenties, and for this reason the law protects the rights of minors.

  Never is the baptism of a minor mentioned in the Bible. Jesus was not baptized until he was 30 and Jews felt a person became an adult at 30. When Cornelius and his family were baptized it does not state that any non adults were baptized and there is no scriptural evidence of any children or teenagers ever being baptized.

  Minor children of Jehovah’s Witnesses are discouraged from participating in non-sinful activities that worldly children take for granted (e.g. choosing entertainment, clothing and association, dating, attending parties without supervision) because they are not yet mature. How is it that someone who must run nearly every decision they make through a parental filter is deemed mature enough to make a vow dedicating themselves to live the remainder of their lives according to the dictates of an organization that may change rules and doctrines at any time?

  As soon as a child is old enough to speak, it is old enough to parrot its parents’ beliefs. Memorizing doctrines and reciting programmed answers to baptismal questions does not ensure that a child understands the beliefs they purport to have. Do not the Witnesses pooh-pooh other religions for baptizing those without capacity for understanding?

  In light of Biblical evidence and common sense about the sensibilities of children, is it reasonable to allow minors to get baptized and hold them accountable for a vow they made at time when they could not truly understand what they were dedicating themselves to?
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  Lurkers Please Read

  by IWillBeDubbedNoMore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the definition of an apostate is one who has abandoned his religious faith.

  i was baptized in 1974. the religion i joined believed that jesus selected the bible students in 1919 to do a separating work.

  we had to preach to find the sheep like ones.

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  bluecanary

  Bookmarked. Thank you for an excellent argument.
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  Something Big Is Happening To the WT Mag.

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i looked over the aug. 1 public watchtower and noticed the same changes i observed previously.. plainly put, it appears that they have simply run out of things to say and so are just filling up printing space!.

  they devote 4 full pages to a bible reading schedule that could have been easily condensed into a couple sentences.

  they have the same large graphics and typeset that eats up printing area.

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  bluecanary

  I have an idea for a new topic....will or will not the people in Sodom and Gomorrah be resurrected?

  That's good. If they go with that topic, they'll have something new to talk about in each issue.
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  Good-bye Everyone

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some of you have been like family to me.

  yet, it's time that i must say good-bye.

  my husband and i have chosen to study the scriptures together on two conditions:.

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  bluecanary

  Cognac, you have a pm.