I dislike country music. Wait, was that the question?
bluecanary
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Inference and what jehovahs witnesses fail to see wrt. 607, evolution, the ark, etc.
by bohm in"hey guys, last summer i spend 3 days in the stomach of a live sperm whale".
the imediate reaction when you hear that is to think im lying.
if i had written that in a book called "the things i did last summer", everyone would tend to treat that rest of the material in that book with sceptisism.
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I'm not so good at the maths, but I follow the words. The thing is, I don't think anyone will disagree with you. The unbelievers get frustrated because the believers don't rely on logic; the believers get frustrated because they see no need to rely on logic, but on faith. The problem for unbelievers is that we don't understand the basis for their faith. They usually say they are moved by holy spirit. Which means that those of us who aren't moved by holy spirit either aren't asking enough, aren't sincere enough, or aren't worthy enough.
There's no way to quantify receptance of holy spirit. There's no way to prove you do or do not have it. JWs believe they have it and everyone else does not. Other Christians believe they have it and JWs do not. So (a) holy spirit moves you to believe the Bible and (b) your understanding of the Bible leads you to believe you have the holy spirit and (c) two groups may have opposing interpretations of the Bible, which means either one or both of them does not have holy spirit (unless the HS is kind of a prankster that's just messing with people). All in all, holy spirit seems like an unreliable method for Bible interpretation. If God wants us to believe this book, it needs to be corroborated by something that can't be badly misinterpreted.
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This is frustrating
by bluecanary ini'm filling out an application to volunteer with big sisters.
they want references.
specifically: "please type or print information requested for three references that are non-family members who have known you well on a personal basis for at least two years.
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bluecanary
I had the same problem when looking for a job..What about old school friends?
I thought about that, but I wasn't close to anyone in school (not even sure how to find them) and that was 10 years ago. I think they want people who can vouch for the kind of person I am now.
Thanks homeschool. I considered that, too. I'm going to try calling first to see if they'll make allowance for my situation.
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Children/Young Adults ages are 24 and 16 and now a pregnancy
by lisavegas420 inwhat should happen?.
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If there was another 5 years on each of them, nobody would think twice about it, even if the genders were reversed.
And if they were each 5 years younger, you'd be screaming bloody murder. A few years makes a difference when you're a minor.
This was the same age and gender dynamic between a couple that got married in my hall. It's not statutory rape if your parents sign off on it.
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Dream interpreters?
by AK - Jeff ini have had two dreams recently that were terrifying.
both involved babies.... dying!.
dream #1. i was carrying a basinet and walking down the steps of my home.
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bluecanary
Babies are representative of new beginnings. Is there something you've just started or are about to start in your life? You are subconsiously worried that this endeavor is not going to turn out well.
I had very similar dreams not long ago. I had a baby that kept getting smushed--beneath my body or under the couch cushions--and I was terrified it would be dead, but each time I pulled it out it was just fine. I have embarked on a new life and I keep worrying that things will go wrong but they surprise me by turning out all right.
Address your fears for the future and your dreams will calm down.
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What are the fruits that we are supposed to recognize?
by bluecanary ini posted most of this on another thread but i want this to stand alone so i can refer back to it in the future.
one of our resident apologists has given her response on this thread.
you can judge the relative worth of her response for yourself.. "by their fruit you will recognize them.
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Since the WTS does not teach correct doctrine, I prefer to focus on it.
I think that's important, too. I just wanted to focus on it from a different angle, here. We've got them surrounded from all sides, Joseph.
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What are the fruits that we are supposed to recognize?
by bluecanary ini posted most of this on another thread but i want this to stand alone so i can refer back to it in the future.
one of our resident apologists has given her response on this thread.
you can judge the relative worth of her response for yourself.. "by their fruit you will recognize them.
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Joseph, it was not my intention to imply that doctrine is unimportant and perhaps I could have chosen better words. My point was that if an organization teaches correct doctrine but is not also characterized by love, than that organization cannot be identified as Jesus disciples, as per John 13:35. You may not think that this scripture carries that kind of weight, but the WTS sure does. My post is an intent to prove that by their own standards, they cannot be the true religion.
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This is the way it is
by is there help out there inacording to calvin and hobbe.
life is nothing more than trying to servive long enought to reproduce before you become food for someone else..
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Mmm, food.
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Things No Jehovahs Witness Will Ever Tell You
by Bangalore inthings no jehovah's witness will ever tell you.. .
http://alwaysonasaturday.blogspot.com/2009/08/things-no-jehovahs-witness-will-ever.html.
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angel eyes, you have just stated that the organization is not accountable for the atrocities it is responsible for. It doesn't matter how I take that. You have proven that you can offer no reason why anyone should choose to submit to this organization or a God that would choose such an organization. Your response speaks for itself as an anti-witness.
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What are the fruits that we are supposed to recognize?
by bluecanary ini posted most of this on another thread but i want this to stand alone so i can refer back to it in the future.
one of our resident apologists has given her response on this thread.
you can judge the relative worth of her response for yourself.. "by their fruit you will recognize them.
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I posted most of this on another thread but I want this to stand alone so I can refer back to it in the future. One of our resident apologists has given her response on this thread. You can judge the relative worth of her response for yourself.
"By their fruit you will recognize them." Matthew 7:16
What are the fruits we are supposed to recognize? Jesus gave these indications:
"'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind."' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'"-Matthew 22:37-39
"By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."-John 13:35
The most important identifying factors for "true" religion hinge on how persons follow these commands. Individual "imperfection" is irrelevant. Choice in doctrines is secondary, to be considered only after first determining whether the religion follows the law of love.
If doctrine was the important identifying feature of Christ's disciples he would have said something like: "By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you understand my place in God's organization, eschew holiday celebrations and if you understand correctly what happens to you when you die."
If Jesus was applying that scripture to individuals, it must be applied across the board to individuals in any religion that are personally characterized by the love they show. Or did Jesus mean that we would recognize an organization as being his disciples? The WTS claims the latter. In which case, the scripture must be applied to the organization as a whole.
Most of us here have discovered that the organization as a whole is characterized not by love, but a lack of love. We are not just talking about a handful of individuals who can be petty or cruel, though there is plenty of that. We are talking organizational policies and doctrines carried out on a massive scale that are unloving and unChristlike. We are talking about policies that have caused the torture, rape and deaths of countless innocents, all at the instigation of the WTS.
Some JWs make the assertion of the WTS that "they never cause us harm." That is patently untrue. Take the incident of what happened to the rank and file in Malawi as just one example of the grave harm this organization is responsible for. Take into account the harmful effects of banning organ transplants, blood transfusions and alternative service. See this site for more information.
Witnesses may claim that the policies mentioned above were there to protect us, but consider this: every one of those policies has been changed. Jehovah may be able to resurrect the many that died as a result of these wrong policies, but does he not hold accountable those who cause the deaths of innocent ones? The organization who incorrectly forced millions to adhere to these unscriptural policies through threat of disfellowshipping is blood guilty.
If Jesus meant that love would be the identifying mark of an organization, the WTS has proven beyond doubt that they are NOT it. If this is just stuff that Jehovah intends to fix within the organization some time in the future, of what good is the measurement Jesus gave us (love) for identifying the true religion in the meantime?
If an organization is not characterized by love, as Jesus said they MUST be, it doesn't matter how many other doctrines they get right. Which is more demonstrative of your love for God: conformance to a particular belief of what happens to your soul when you die or loving your neighbor enough to allow him a blood transfusion as a lifesaving treatment? Understanding the exact level of Jesus' divinity or showing love to your fellow by not shunning him when he has questions or doubts? Avoiding a celebration that has past ties to a pagan ritual or making it a priority to protect the children in your midst from abuse?
If the information I posted is incorrect or my reasoning faulty, by all means, point out the particular fallacies. And if you cannot defend this organization against charges of blood guilt and organizational lack of love, then why on earth are you promoting them?