I did! Friends walked arround here with the article (they got it early by fax instead of the actual magazine) and even the CO, I knew very good, told us "Oh oh, they are changing 1914)... So a good friend of my told me everything in detail, I got Coc and ISoCF to read and TTATT was between my ears. And then the struglle begun.
Gorbatchov
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Who left or got stumbled over the 1995 generation thing?
by Julia Orwell inor the 2000's generation thing?.
how did you feel?
how did it help you wake up?
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Over 184 million served ...
by Simon intopic pages that is (not counting home page, active or subject pages).
holy crap, you lot like to talk and read a lot !.
we're currently getting about 1.8 million page views (across all pages) and ~ 150k unique visitors (275k visits in total) per month.. glad i have a plan to move things to the cloud soon!.
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When I was in Eritrea (Yes!) one of the first things I did was to search for an internet cafe. When there was power, I got a very old PC in downtown Asmara, and very fast I typed www.jehovahs-witness.net and 5 minutes later the site was on my screen ((:
So, Eritrea is one of the country's JWD / JWN is read and topics are written from it
For foreigners and students, there is internet in Eritrea. It is watched by secret service, but they don't have anything against JWN.
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Who is in charge of the Watchtower Society
by Gorbatchov inthe great topic of dogpatch, brought up my some thoughts about "who is in charge of the watchtower society".. first the character of the organization: since the foundation by w.h.
conley and the russells the watchtower society have ever been commercial.. 1. cooporation between businessmen and bankers: joseph, charles taze russell and william h. conley.. 2. exchange a small store chain for a more profitable business: religion.. 3. target group: anxiously, rich, white, mainly female part of population.. 4. using money making scheme 1: the watchtower society had to pay for the license of the publications written by russell, tower publishing corporation.. 5. using money making scheme 2: all profits of the watchtower society are invested in real estate.
offices and converence halls all over the world.
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The great topic of Dogpatch, brought up my some thoughts about "Who is in Charge of the Watchtower Society".
First the character of the organization: since the foundation by W.H. Conley and the Russells the Watchtower Society have ever been commercial.
1. Cooporation between businessmen and bankers: Joseph, Charles Taze Russell and William H. Conley.
2. Exchange a small store chain for a more profitable business: religion.
3. Target group: anxiously, rich, white, mainly female part of population.
4. Using money making scheme 1: the Watchtower Society had to pay for the license of the publications written by Russell, Tower Publishing corporation.
5. Using money making scheme 2: all profits of the Watchtower Society are invested in real estate. Offices and converence halls all over the world. Thousands of local congregation buildings worldwide. Build for free by volunteers, amortized by volunteers and hired for full market price every week by the same volunteers.
This commercial character and intention is organized in a business model: the hundreds of worldwide corporations as part of the Watchtower Society.
Like all other commercial organizations, the business model needs a product.
The product of the Watchtower Society is: religion, an organized collection of belief systems , cultural systems , and world views that relate humanity to spirituality and, sometimes, to moral values . (quote: wikipedia).
This product is virtual. Just like a service sector product.
To guarantee the continuity of the organization, the product can be upgraded, swept away and transformed.
These service sector products are developed by the writing staff at watchtower headquarters. A part of the product is the facade role of the Governing Body / FDS.
Alongside the virtual product, there is the real hardware department. It operates professional in a publishing and in a construction version.
So my opinion is:
The hardware departments are the leading factor. They stand for the continuity of the organization.
The virtual product departments are flexible. They go to the right if they need so, they go to the left if they need so, to support the hardware departments.
Who is in charge?
The hardware departments. Legal officer Philip Brumley, Watchtower publisher James Pellechia, and Chief investment officer Gary Carver.
Maybe they have links with the Cayman Islands, like The Firm. But I have no proof of that.
Gorby
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FDS: Ad Jesum Per Mariam = Ad Deus Per Regendo corpori
by Gorbatchov inthis morning i was thinking (again!!
i want to stop it, but i can't) about the "new light" about the faithfull and descrete slave, now identified by it self as the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.. the society created their own marian devotion!.
the latin prase "ad jesum per mariam" has become "ad deus per regendo corpori".. gorby.
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This morning I was thinking (again!! I want to stop it, but i can't) about the "New Light" about the Faithfull and Descrete Slave, now identified by it self as the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.
The Society created their own Marian Devotion!
The latin prase "Ad Jesum Per Mariam" has become "Ad Deus Per Regendo corpori".
Gorby
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Some friday morning reflections
by Gorbatchov injust reading all the aawa related topics this morning and it makes me really sad.
i'm not related to aawa, just a fader in western europe and a longtime member of h2o and later on jwd.. it makes me sad to see what's the legacy of the watchtower society religion: kgb style betrayal of family members, making screenshots of facebook group members, just to betray their christian brother and sister to the elders, to interrogate them, try to confess their faults and correct them aggressively.
this behaviour places our religion definitly at the dark pages of history.. it makes me sad to see that some group of good peope, forming an association, then some things going wrong with the important and sacred topic named privacy.
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Just reading all the AAWA related topics this morning and it makes me really sad. I'm not related to AAWA, just a fader in Western Europe and a longtime member of H2O and later on JWD.
It makes me sad to see what's the Legacy of the Watchtower Society religion: KGB style betrayal of family members, making screenshots of facebook group members, just to betray their christian brother and sister to the elders, to interrogate them, try to confess their faults and correct them aggressively. This behaviour places our religion definitly at the dark pages of history.
It makes me sad to see that some group of good peope, forming an association, then some things going wrong with the important and sacred topic named privacy. I can't believe it was their initial intention to release the names of others. Please take the opportunity to learn from this case. If some thing is going very wrong, learn from it, adjust policy and say sorry to the one you hurt. And go on with the things you stand for.
What I see is that when we fade away from our JW believe system, we have to grow to independence and autonomy. Have to stop thinking of being a part of any group. Learn to do the thing we personaly stand for. And try to learn from our personal faults.
So, it's my opinion that when our fellow witnesses point their finger on "Apostates", I can answer that "Apostates" do not exist. What exist is persons being part of mankind, having the freedom to chose the path we want to take in live. And make the best of it.
Gorby
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Well an old friend found me. Now I'm in her cross hairs to get active again.
by wha happened? inugh.
on one hand i'm glad she's ok. rather sickly.
but once she got word i've been inactive, she's all hot and bothered to get me back to meetings.. "did you attend the memorial this year?".
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Our local clown elder (dressed like one), told me at the memorial "Nice to see you find the road to the kingdom hall again". I have lost this road again since...
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The United Nations will attack Christendom
by Doug Mason inthis is a serious question and i hope to receive intelligent explanations.. .
the wts says that the great tribulation lies in the future.
they write that it will start when the united nations attacks christendom.. .
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This will never happen! Nations like the US, UK will veto such a resolution in the UN Security Counsel.
The UN has no own army.
The boys in Brooklyn are so crazy. Come with some good stuff. This is fantasy.
Gorby
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by Gorbatchov inwith the april 15 study watchtower, the governing body, the watchtower staff and their close fellows, co's, do's and other "friends" like gilead teachers, have been proven wrong about the most fundamental doctrine of jehovah's witnesses for 95 years.. so, the big question now is: who is realy the faithfull and discrete slave?
when you are wrong for about 95 years, are you right or are you the wrong part of history?!?.
what a joke!
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With the april 15 study watchtower, the governing body, the watchtower staff and their close fellows, CO's, DO's and other "friends" like Gilead teachers, have been proven wrong about the most fundamental doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses for 95 years.
So, the big question now is: who is realy the faithfull and discrete slave? When you are wrong for about 95 years, are you right or are you the wrong part of history?!?
What a joke! All mentioned above, the GB, the staff at HQ and CO's, DO's, Gilead teachers have disfellowshipped maybe 1000's of genuine and fair loving christians, because these were right with their opinion about Watchtower theology!
Gorby
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New Light: That's what you call irony!
by Gorbatchov ini read a part of the new light in the april 15 study watchtower and got one conclusion: that's what you call irony!.
if we, readers of that magazine, said the same as written, before october 2012, it would lead to disfellowship.
if we were invited by a comite, and we would say the same, we would be disfellowshipped for live and for eternal life!!!!
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@newly englightened: right. the 1995 generation change distroyed my believe in WTS and for a part in God also.
@ding: the longtime watchtower staff members and CO / DO's, how can they look into the mirror?!?
They disfellowed without emotion many JW's with other "ideas" about this important part of doctrine, and now they are proven wrong!
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New Light: That's what you call irony!
by Gorbatchov ini read a part of the new light in the april 15 study watchtower and got one conclusion: that's what you call irony!.
if we, readers of that magazine, said the same as written, before october 2012, it would lead to disfellowship.
if we were invited by a comite, and we would say the same, we would be disfellowshipped for live and for eternal life!!!!
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I read a part of the new light in the april 15 study watchtower and got one conclusion: That's what you call irony!
If we, readers of that magazine, said the same as written, before october 2012, it would lead to disfellowship. If we were invited by a comite, and we would say the same, we would be disfellowshipped for live and for eternal life!!!!
And now, an 8 part governing body, claiming being faithfull and discrete, are publishing something totaly different, so we will being disfellowshipped if we hold on the pre october 2012 doctrine.
What an irony! Kafka!!
Gorby