A warm welcome from The Netherlands, a small county in Europe also.
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Gorbatchov
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New Member-Active Elder
by Promitheas ini'm a new member & i'd like to say hi to everyone, intoducing myself.. i am a 3rd generation born-in at mid 50's & an active elder.. english is not my mother language, so pls ignore any grammatical errors.
i live in a small country in europe.. i'd like to thank you for all information posted.
some of them have rally helped me to understand and examine again my beliefs.. last new light concerning f&ds=gb has verified the idea that they are popes in the position op pope.. i still believe in god & in his son jesus christ but not in the gb..
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A "Chernobyl" for the Watchtower - could it happen?
by sir82 inthere is an article here which posits that the collapse of the soviet union can be directly traced back to the chernobyl explosion.
it's a pretty compelling piece:.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/nuclear_power/2013/01/chernobyl_and_the_fall_of_the_soviet_union_gorbachev_s_glasnost_allowed.html.
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Gorbatchov
The INTERNET is Watchtowers Chernobyl. "New Light" is published on JWD first, at JW.ORG second and in the Wachtower magazine third.
The INTERNET will change it all very soon.
Gorby
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Secret code on Watchtower response letters
by Gorbatchov inone i got an answer on a letter i wrote to the wts.
the letter had an 3 digit code like cpl, what stands for the author of the letter.. who knows how this 3 digit code is made?
what's the secret key of it?.
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One I got an answer on a letter I wrote to the WTS. The letter had an 3 digit code like CPL, what stands for the author of the letter.
Who knows how this 3 digit code is made? What's the secret key of it?
Gorby
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1961 Kingdom Service Questions-Not to be studied at any meeting, nor placed in general circulation among the publishers!
by Atlantis in1961 kingdom service questions: personal references to watch tower publications on moral matters..this booklet is the property of the_____________________congregation.
it is to be retained in the congregation permanent file.
its counsel is for the guidance of the congregation committee in handling matters with members of the congregation.
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Atlantis, thanks for this upload!!!!
Gorby
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Experience with elder: From top down to bottom up organization
by Gorbatchov init was around 2009, when i attended higher education (bachelor), an elder of the congregation made an appointment for a encourage conversation at home.
because i know the elder whole my life, and i have respect for his age, i couldn't say no.
we started with a good cup of coffee.
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It was around 2009, when I attended Higher Education (bachelor), an elder of the congregation made an appointment for a encourage conversation at home. Because I know the elder whole my life, and I have respect for his age, I couldn't say no. We started with a good cup of coffee. Then he took an old, folded piece of paper with notes.
Word for word he read aloud what he would say to us (Gorby and his lovely wife), without looking to us. It was a story about stay preaching from house-to-house.
Then he took a photocopy of an old illustration:
He explained that this was the way the organization was designed. With my new bachelor business administration degree I could not resist to oppose the organizational chart.
I told the elder, that I had other ideas of how the organization had te be designed. I took a paper and a pencil, and drew the next chart, based on the idea of Servant Leadership:
1. publisher
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2. Ministerial servant
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3. Congregational elder
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4. CO
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5. DO
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6. Bethel
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7. Governing body
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8. Jesus
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9. Jehovah God
The elder nearly dropped from his chair. He responded: "You could be very right! But you are not, because the illustration from the brothers is how it is!".
The conversation was ended very fast. I always have to smile about this experience, when the organizational chart is in the news again!
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JW.ORG section again some irrelevant news
by Gorbatchov inhow lovely the very old jw lady is, it's not about her.. but the jw.org is using every opportunity to make (irrelevant) news!.
http://www.jw.org/en/news/by-region/europe/france/irenise-moulonguet-centenarian/.
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Gorbatchov
How lovely the very old JW lady is, it's not about her.
But the JW.org is using every opportunity to make (irrelevant) news!
http://www.jw.org/en/news/by-region/europe/france/irenise-moulonguet-centenarian/
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Weird "new world" artwork from the 2013 calendar
by cedars inmy mother-in-law has a strange obsession with calendars, and orders the society's calendar each year.
this year's calendar is especially weird.
it features images depicting future events - in particular, the society's vision of the new world order.. i've taken the opportunity to scan some of the images for you all to check out.. please note - there are captions for each of the images, but i don't have the english language version of the calendar so i'd rather just quote the scripture used so as not to reveal which country i'm in.. .
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Gorbatchov
Cedar, thanks for the upload!
My opinioin: these are the most weird illustrations i have seen from WT. They are also new. Never was live in paradise so detailed illustrated.
When I see the pictures I feel fear, t hese sent shivers up my spine! Also I compare it with Chinese / North Korean communistic art.
This is weird so weird, strange, what's going on with WT?!? How low can they go? How far do they go?!?
Also: every angel is white. Jesus is white. In fact he was light coloured, a middle east man!
Gorby
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Could the angel be Jesus @ new watchtower Earthly organizational sheet
by Gorbatchov inquestions raised in some topics about the absence of jesus in the new watchtower / gods "earthly" organizational sheet.. the illustration shows an angel, who could be jesus.
in a watchtower article from 2010 i found a jesus who looks.
similar to the angel in the organizational sheet.
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Let's see what will happen the next months / years.
Our problem is that the WTS has all the time of the world. I think they have made a 20 year plan for the future.
Because all the big company's have these plans for change.
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And after the work, Ruthy knew where to find some pleasure!
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Could the angel be Jesus @ new watchtower Earthly organizational sheet
by Gorbatchov inquestions raised in some topics about the absence of jesus in the new watchtower / gods "earthly" organizational sheet.. the illustration shows an angel, who could be jesus.
in a watchtower article from 2010 i found a jesus who looks.
similar to the angel in the organizational sheet.
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Questions raised in some topics about the absence of Jesus in the new watchtower / Gods "Earthly" organizational sheet.
The illustration shows an angel, who could be Jesus. In a Watchtower article from 2010 I found a Jesus who looks
similar to the angel in the organizational sheet. The beard, hear and face are the same. Only the crown is missing.
Maybe this has something to do with future "new light", that Jesus is not appointed yet. But all we can do is guessing!
And that's strange. Normally an illustration clarrifies, has the intention to explain, and this illustration leads to guessing.
Maybe intended, otherwise I declare the illustration unsuccesful.
Gorby
Jesus @ 2010 Watchtower:
Maybe Jesus? @ 2013 Watchtower:
