Thanks Cedar!
Gorby
here it is.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4sednn9nli.
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cedars.
Thanks Cedar!
Gorby
this week i had to apply my daughter for ballet lessons, for the new season.
on the registration document was printed with bold letters.
"season 2013 / 2014".. when my eye caught 2014 i was thinking: what?
This week I had to apply my daughter for ballet lessons, for the new season. On the registration document was printed with bold letters
"Season 2013 / 2014".
When my eye caught 2014 I was thinking: what? 2014?!?!?!?
So, will this effect occur when witnesses realize 2014 is just around the corner? (ehhh thats a WTS phrase)
Gorby
another wacky kool aid thread for your reading pleasure from the hardcore dubbs on jw talk dot net is here if you want to read it:.
they wax philosophical, they curse this horrible old world, they gently try to project how soon the big a will come, and then swoon when someone quotes a tidbit from a gb member that they overheard.
warning: those with weak stomachs do not read!.
About Loesch: that says more about their plans: they will keep the international HQ at 25 Columbia Heights. And sell the "low hanging fruit" buildings.
They will not gamble only at Warwick. It's a to small base for an international corporation like the WTS.
Warwick and Patterson is planned for a smaller staff and for a nice home for the GB members. 25 Columbia Heights will stay HQ for PR reasons, close to the UN, Bankers and best Legal support.
prior to that we had been in a new congregation for about 9 months, and we were just irregular.
my husband rarely went, and i would go occasionally with our toddler son just enough to show our faces and keep the elders off our backs, and for the sake of some friendships in our old hall.
all of the reasons i had for going were just no longer important.
Hi Whatnow? !
Your story, is our story. 3 years ago we moved to another town. And my wife and I don't want to go to the KH anymore.
Since the memorial we have not been there. No one is calling us. Moving to another town is the best way to fade!
We don't feel lost, anyway.
Gorby
this night i was a few hours awake and thinking again about our witness believe.
and i saw the light!!.
me and many others here at jwd/jwn do not expect any witness revolution and real change.. but i think we completely miss some points!.
This night I was a few hours awake and thinking again about our witness believe. And I saw the light!!
Me and many others here at JWD/JWN do not expect any witness revolution and real change.
But I think we completely miss some points!
10 years ago we had to find Ray Franz in "The Better Bookstore".
Today we have all the real Truths About The Thruth direct available at our tablet and computer / telefone devices.
And we all know, JW's are reading this information. And post here also at the board with their story about their struggle and fading.
THIS IS A REVOLUTION! THIS IS A REAL CHANGE. AND WILL HAVE REAL EFFECTS.
Gorby
or the 2000's generation thing?.
how did you feel?
how did it help you wake up?
I did! Friends walked arround here with the article (they got it early by fax instead of the actual magazine) and even the CO, I knew very good, told us "Oh oh, they are changing 1914)... So a good friend of my told me everything in detail, I got Coc and ISoCF to read and TTATT was between my ears. And then the struglle begun.
topic pages that is (not counting home page, active or subject pages).
holy crap, you lot like to talk and read a lot !.
we're currently getting about 1.8 million page views (across all pages) and ~ 150k unique visitors (275k visits in total) per month.. glad i have a plan to move things to the cloud soon!.
When I was in Eritrea (Yes!) one of the first things I did was to search for an internet cafe. When there was power, I got a very old PC in downtown Asmara, and very fast I typed www.jehovahs-witness.net and 5 minutes later the site was on my screen ((:
So, Eritrea is one of the country's JWD / JWN is read and topics are written from it
For foreigners and students, there is internet in Eritrea. It is watched by secret service, but they don't have anything against JWN.
the great topic of dogpatch, brought up my some thoughts about "who is in charge of the watchtower society".. first the character of the organization: since the foundation by w.h.
conley and the russells the watchtower society have ever been commercial.. 1. cooporation between businessmen and bankers: joseph, charles taze russell and william h. conley.. 2. exchange a small store chain for a more profitable business: religion.. 3. target group: anxiously, rich, white, mainly female part of population.. 4. using money making scheme 1: the watchtower society had to pay for the license of the publications written by russell, tower publishing corporation.. 5. using money making scheme 2: all profits of the watchtower society are invested in real estate.
offices and converence halls all over the world.
The great topic of Dogpatch, brought up my some thoughts about "Who is in Charge of the Watchtower Society".
First the character of the organization: since the foundation by W.H. Conley and the Russells the Watchtower Society have ever been commercial.
1. Cooporation between businessmen and bankers: Joseph, Charles Taze Russell and William H. Conley.
2. Exchange a small store chain for a more profitable business: religion.
3. Target group: anxiously, rich, white, mainly female part of population.
4. Using money making scheme 1: the Watchtower Society had to pay for the license of the publications written by Russell, Tower Publishing corporation.
5. Using money making scheme 2: all profits of the Watchtower Society are invested in real estate. Offices and converence halls all over the world. Thousands of local congregation buildings worldwide. Build for free by volunteers, amortized by volunteers and hired for full market price every week by the same volunteers.
This commercial character and intention is organized in a business model: the hundreds of worldwide corporations as part of the Watchtower Society.
Like all other commercial organizations, the business model needs a product.
The product of the Watchtower Society is: religion, an organized collection of belief systems , cultural systems , and world views that relate humanity to spirituality and, sometimes, to moral values . (quote: wikipedia).
This product is virtual. Just like a service sector product.
To guarantee the continuity of the organization, the product can be upgraded, swept away and transformed.
These service sector products are developed by the writing staff at watchtower headquarters. A part of the product is the facade role of the Governing Body / FDS.
Alongside the virtual product, there is the real hardware department. It operates professional in a publishing and in a construction version.
So my opinion is:
The hardware departments are the leading factor. They stand for the continuity of the organization.
The virtual product departments are flexible. They go to the right if they need so, they go to the left if they need so, to support the hardware departments.
Who is in charge?
The hardware departments. Legal officer Philip Brumley, Watchtower publisher James Pellechia, and Chief investment officer Gary Carver.
Maybe they have links with the Cayman Islands, like The Firm. But I have no proof of that.
Gorby
this morning i was thinking (again!!
i want to stop it, but i can't) about the "new light" about the faithfull and descrete slave, now identified by it self as the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.. the society created their own marian devotion!.
the latin prase "ad jesum per mariam" has become "ad deus per regendo corpori".. gorby.
This morning I was thinking (again!! I want to stop it, but i can't) about the "New Light" about the Faithfull and Descrete Slave, now identified by it self as the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.
The Society created their own Marian Devotion!
The latin prase "Ad Jesum Per Mariam" has become "Ad Deus Per Regendo corpori".
Gorby
just reading all the aawa related topics this morning and it makes me really sad.
i'm not related to aawa, just a fader in western europe and a longtime member of h2o and later on jwd.. it makes me sad to see what's the legacy of the watchtower society religion: kgb style betrayal of family members, making screenshots of facebook group members, just to betray their christian brother and sister to the elders, to interrogate them, try to confess their faults and correct them aggressively.
this behaviour places our religion definitly at the dark pages of history.. it makes me sad to see that some group of good peope, forming an association, then some things going wrong with the important and sacred topic named privacy.
Just reading all the AAWA related topics this morning and it makes me really sad. I'm not related to AAWA, just a fader in Western Europe and a longtime member of H2O and later on JWD.
It makes me sad to see what's the Legacy of the Watchtower Society religion: KGB style betrayal of family members, making screenshots of facebook group members, just to betray their christian brother and sister to the elders, to interrogate them, try to confess their faults and correct them aggressively. This behaviour places our religion definitly at the dark pages of history.
It makes me sad to see that some group of good peope, forming an association, then some things going wrong with the important and sacred topic named privacy. I can't believe it was their initial intention to release the names of others. Please take the opportunity to learn from this case. If some thing is going very wrong, learn from it, adjust policy and say sorry to the one you hurt. And go on with the things you stand for.
What I see is that when we fade away from our JW believe system, we have to grow to independence and autonomy. Have to stop thinking of being a part of any group. Learn to do the thing we personaly stand for. And try to learn from our personal faults.
So, it's my opinion that when our fellow witnesses point their finger on "Apostates", I can answer that "Apostates" do not exist. What exist is persons being part of mankind, having the freedom to chose the path we want to take in live. And make the best of it.
Gorby