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  RUSSIA: (6 April 2017) Day 2 - Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way

  by jwleaks in

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  tighter security today and much greater police presence.

  great weather.. .

  lunchtime view over moscow.. .

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  Gorbatchov

  If it's fair, I doubt it, but one thing is true: Russia graps the Society by the balls! 😎

  They attack them by their weak point: the organization!!

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  About the JW Russian action

  by Gorbatchov in

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  what i don't get about the russian petition action:.

  watchtower launched at march, 21 the petition action.. in the instructions they write it can take 14 days for postal arrival in russia.. on april, 5 they expect legal clarification from the supreme court.. so, conclusion: the letters will arrive just around the day of clarification.. conclusion: this action is planned for media impact only.

  if it was to make judges think, (what they don't do on a petition cry), .

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  Gorbatchov

  Thanks for the many reactions. The relation between Watchtower and state has my great interest.

  About China: during the 90's Watchtower used the phrase "Kingdom of peace" instead of kingdom, Gods kingdom and Jesus kingdom. It was used at some conventions and some articles.

  An University professor with good connections with jw officials told me it was done for clearing up relations with the Chinese government.

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  About the JW Russian action

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what i don't get about the russian petition action:.

  watchtower launched at march, 21 the petition action.. in the instructions they write it can take 14 days for postal arrival in russia.. on april, 5 they expect legal clarification from the supreme court.. so, conclusion: the letters will arrive just around the day of clarification.. conclusion: this action is planned for media impact only.

  if it was to make judges think, (what they don't do on a petition cry), .

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  Gorbatchov

  Dreary,

  What I mean to say is that this kind of proces, interaction between state and religion does not work effictive by using letters by members pretending to be general public. The other side of the table knows this and it disturbes a negotiation between involved party's.

  It could be effective when there were made concessions. Like between China and the Watchtower during the 90's, when the Watchtower changed their definition of the word "Kingdom", for negotiation with the government.

  Last moment action is a sign of ineffective negotiation. Case lost.

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  About the JW Russian action

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what i don't get about the russian petition action:.

  watchtower launched at march, 21 the petition action.. in the instructions they write it can take 14 days for postal arrival in russia.. on april, 5 they expect legal clarification from the supreme court.. so, conclusion: the letters will arrive just around the day of clarification.. conclusion: this action is planned for media impact only.

  if it was to make judges think, (what they don't do on a petition cry), .

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  Gorbatchov

  What I don't get about the Russian petition action:

  Watchtower launched at March, 21 the petition action.

  In the instructions they write it can take 14 days for postal arrival in Russia.

  On april, 5 they expect legal clarification from the Supreme Court.

  So, conclusion: the letters will arrive just around the day of clarification.

  Conclusion: this action is planned for media impact only.

  If it was to make judges think, (what they don't do on a petition cry),

  they are much to late. The juridical clarification proces is not done in one or two days.

  G.
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-2-17 WT Study (January 2017)(ENTRUST)

  by blondie in

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  blondie’s comments you will not hear at the april 2, 2017 wt study (january 2017) (entrust).

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-january-2017/these-things-entrust-to-faithful-men/ .

  excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

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  Gorbatchov

  Answers were given by sisters, Elders had faces like the cat who just eated Tweety... 😎

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  WT about elder positions

  by Gorbatchov in

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  yesterday, visited the hall for family reasons.. wt was about elder positions, educate younger brothers, delegate your work etc.

  the usual story about the body of elders, give younger people a change and don't get atached to your position.

  what was evident: 90 percent of the answers came from the sisters.. the elders looked like the house cat just eaten tweety.. never heared so much theory and knowing it will be fully ignored.. why make it a 45 minute issue for every tom, dick and harry?.

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  Gorbatchov

  Yesterday, visited the hall for family reasons.

  WT was about elder positions, educate younger brothers, delegate your work etc. The usual story about the body of elders, give younger people a change and don't get atached to your position.

  What was evident: 90 percent of the answers came from the sisters.

  The elders looked like the house cat just eaten Tweety.

  Never heared so much theory and knowing it will be fully ignored.

  Why make it a 45 minute issue for every Tom, Dick and Harry?

  G.
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  $25,000 for one-day assembly in our area

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  they started out with a $3,500 carry-over but by the end of the day they were short $25,000.

  the speaker eloquently beseeched the audience to go the atm machines and give their generous contribution or at least their widow's mite.

  after the sessions were over, our friend who attended walked from one end of the assembly hall and then to the other end and noticed long lines up to both machines with people who couldn't wait to run up their credit cards.

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  This is like a piramid fund. Jackpot!

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  11. How can we show our support for the Messianic King? (From book study last night)

  by NikL in

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  2. bible

  the study was on how wt has refined itself over the years by ceasing celebrations of christmas etc.. paragraph 11.

  11 what a fine example those faithful bible students set for us!

  reflecting on their example, we do well to ask ourselves: ‘how do i view the direction we receive from headquarters?

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  North Korea
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  tidbits from recent C.O. visit

  by nowwhat? in

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  "all people in the world are currently considered enemies of god" gee i wonder where some poeple get the idea that we are an extremist organization.. " jehovahs chariot is moving forward at blazing speed!

  " in what reality is contraction and downsizing moving forward?.

  "it used to be that if a congregation reached 150 publishers we would split into 2 congregations now if we have 2 congs.

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  Jehovahs witness are like North Korea.

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  GoBo hints we want all to dress American I

  by oppostate in

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  in this wt literature illustration from a german kingdom hall, one can see that the two nonwestern jw's on the right are featured as needing to improve on their choice of clothing and become more american like the gobo wishes them all to be.. .. .

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  Gorbatchov

  See earlier post about this topic

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5450597899698176/watchtower-today