Snowbird.......................................... That was during the 80's when the KH was run by power trippers.
And who's running it now?
elders love to counsel people.
it feeds their ego.
over the years, you must've been counseled on different things.. when i was almost of age to become a ms, an elder counseled me for my "lack of seriousness".
Snowbird.......................................... That was during the 80's when the KH was run by power trippers.
And who's running it now?
this presentation goes over jerry bergman's research on mental illness with jehovah's witnesses.
this includes over 8 different research projects conducted by different doctors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urbxtvuat1g.
Take the average person in the world with average anxieties and phobias.
Add to that the additional stresses of
1. Getting ready and attending 3 mind numbingly boring meetings a week, 2 in the evening and 1 on Sunday morning.
2. Getting ready and preparing for the door to door ministry where you face opposition and ridicule among other things.
3. Spending 10 hours riding in a car on Saturday mornings in a suit with people you don’t like.
4. Having to prepare and deliver public speaking assignments 1 or twice a month
5. Being subject to criticism for “not doing more” on a regular basis from people you don’t like.
6. Spending time preparing and studying publications so that you can give comments at meetings.
7. Feeling anxiety if you don’t.
8. Stressing over a CO visit twice a year where you receive criticism for what your not doing
9. Preparing and attending a DC every summer where you spend an entire weekend in a suit with your family in tow.
10. Preparing and attending a CA and SAD twice a year where you spend an entire weekend in a suit with your family in tow.
And see if you don’t have some additional anxiety, depression, other aggravated mental health issues.
this is from an e-mail site (and yes, i think it is as ludicrous as the rest of you will).
just passing on a quick thought.... .
maybe most of you are aware of the situation in honduras, a central america little country.
I agree........... replace all meetings with Family Worship!
elders love to counsel people.
it feeds their ego.
over the years, you must've been counseled on different things.. when i was almost of age to become a ms, an elder counseled me for my "lack of seriousness".
We had a sister who had a nice figure and wore tight clothing to meetings. It drove one high profile elder nuts. All kinds of "local needs" talks on dress and grooming.
The high profile "elders" would always chicken out and assign newbie elders to go counsel her and her husband. The thing I regret is that I didn’t refuse the assignment and tell the elder with the problem to go do it himself.
(Or as ATJ would say “f%$#k off” )
a good friend and long-time elder just back from patterson, asked me what i thought is he most prevalent problem elders are facing today....told him i had no idea.... he said "pornography" by far the most vexing problem for them... hard to believe, no?.
wait.......let me clear my history
i realize that the latest clarification of the generation teaching has been discussed quite a bit on this thread.. but i think that there are at least two other important points from the annual meeting that have been, for the most part, overlooked:.
1. the weeds of matthew 13 are not the churches of christendom, but apostates.. 2. showing love to our neighbors involves more than just the preaching work.
(thanks for mentioning this rubadub).
BTW- you're right. They will be doing cartwheels with grins on their faces if you can count the time. I wouldn't believe this could happen in a million years. But I thought that about the CBS too.
i realize that the latest clarification of the generation teaching has been discussed quite a bit on this thread.. but i think that there are at least two other important points from the annual meeting that have been, for the most part, overlooked:.
1. the weeds of matthew 13 are not the churches of christendom, but apostates.. 2. showing love to our neighbors involves more than just the preaching work.
(thanks for mentioning this rubadub).
OTWO - Do you have it on good source that they are considering "counting time" for doing good works?
Nothing ever gets done unless you can count the time. (Ex. - shepherding. doesnt get done. why? cant count the time)
Time counts for everything. Especially privileges and responsibilities. Every time there is any question about a brother, they always go back to the field service report.
So if that time is going to be counted, there is going to be a significant shift in brothers having responsiblity since they will now qualify. To me this would include brothers who really want to be of help to other people, not brothers who merely want position and authority.
Bring it on!
from a little bird... .
interesting portions highlighted.
notes from annual meeting (oct 3, 2009) .
monkey, monkey, monkey
obviously a book written for kids by old dumb morons at bethel the book starts with abels murder {with pictures for the kids} people begging to get into the ark before drowning to death...a good lesson for kiddies!
a women putting a tent peg thru someones temple {with pictures} moses killing an egyptian.
etc a horrified atheist lady returned the books my mother gave as "gifts" {count 2 placements} after seeing the horrific topics, she decided it was "not apropriate for her kids.".
Who had the brain fart ideas for this book for kids??? I thought it was embarassing when it came out.
i was thinking about some stupid non-sensical answers i have heard over the years.
"we all know the blue whale is the biggest fish"
"we were on the ministry and met a coloured couple.
During a SM part a brother asked the friends to take out their "centerfold". He meant their "insert". Damn near couldnt continue.