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  Please explain 'inactive'....

  by wantstoleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is being inactive just not being active in the field service?

  or does it mean not attending meetings also?

  for some reason i thought it only meant not going witnessing.. for instance, years ago i went to every meeting, but not on field service.

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  Well, if she's only been gone 6 yrs. she hasnt missed anything.
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  And we dare question the gb

  by booby in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is from an e-mail site (and yes, i think it is as ludicrous as the rest of you will).

  just passing on a quick thought.... .

  maybe most of you are aware of the situation in honduras, a central america little country.

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  KurtBethel

  Hey, let us fantasize a little, will ya?
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  And we dare question the gb

  by booby in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is from an e-mail site (and yes, i think it is as ludicrous as the rest of you will).

  just passing on a quick thought.... .

  maybe most of you are aware of the situation in honduras, a central america little country.

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  And by family worship" I mean "watch TV and drink beer".

  Exactly!
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  ...Good Food at Assemblys.....What Happened?..

  by OUTLAW in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in a time before many of you were born... assemblys had a great food... i left before the food started getting bad... .

  i am totally amazed at reading... how food at assemblys got worse and worse... until finally food was`nt served at all... .

  back in the day... food at assemblys was pretty dam good... there was quality cooking back then... jehovah`s witness`s actually looked forward to meals at assemblys... .

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  Not very well as a matter of fact considering the dressing down I got.
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  ...Good Food at Assemblys.....What Happened?..

  by OUTLAW in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in a time before many of you were born... assemblys had a great food... i left before the food started getting bad... .

  i am totally amazed at reading... how food at assemblys got worse and worse... until finally food was`nt served at all... .

  back in the day... food at assemblys was pretty dam good... there was quality cooking back then... jehovah`s witness`s actually looked forward to meals at assemblys... .

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  I was Food Service Overseer at the CA in the mid 80's. We could make whatever menu we wanted. We were also expected to generate 100% profit. The first person the CO met with after the CA was Food Service. Why? To see how much money we made. One time we had an excess of about 10 qt of sour cream. Rather than compliment us on all the hard work we put in for weeks, he was pissed about the sour cream. Sheeesh.
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  Am i correct?

  by angel eyes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is just an obsevation from me...ok i dont mean to annoy anyone but is it true or just me?.

  i feel that ones raised in the truth are so much better of than us who came in from the world.

  i say that because they have family who are witnesses too.

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  Ok, it’s been six pages but I have to jump on and go back to the original post.

  AE……….First, Are you aware that it is a disfellowshipping offense to come to these websites, let alone participate in them??? It puzzles me the amount of time you spend here.

  I am an active JW and I come here at my peril. Why? Because I enjoy the honesty, brutality, history, and sometimes vulgarity of people that I share a common background with. It’s oddly refreshing.

  I was raised in the Truth and like ATJ and many others here, I had the goal of being an elder since I was very young boy. I would sit in horrendously boring meetings and took notes in my Bible so that I would be able to help others when the time came. Eventually I became a MS for 10 yrs and an elder for 14. The time had come for me to utilize all that I had labored for all my life.

  Then a Nazi body of elders removed me for a reason I won’t post for fear of identification. But safe to say it wasn’t for a sin. I had merely violated one of their pet peeves. After that people that respected me and sought me out for help and counsel lowered their eyes and avoided me on the street. I and my family continued to be treated in a brutal and thoughtless manner by the elders.

  This treatment caused us to become introverted and isolated for self-preservation. I developed some negative lifestyle habits in order to cope with the unimaginable pain. I could go on and on with shocking example after example. But I won’t.

  Now I ask you, who am I going to talk about that with??? You can’t talk negative about the elders to fellow JW. Most people wouldn’t believe me anyway. If they believed me they would lose THEIR respect for these brothers. No win situation. Professional help is frowned upon. So you suffer in silence until…………..

  I come here because I get comfort in writing about my own experience anonymously. I get comfort in hearing others whose stories are worse than my own. I get comfort in just hearing the Truth about the way things are and not the regurgitated bullshit propaganda from the ORG. I get comfort in knowing that I’m not the only one. I get comfort in reading how others give ones like me a reassuring word.

  The softball question you ask “is it better to be raised in the Truth or brought in?” is more for a car group of sisters out in FS on a Saturday morning. It’s not surprising you get the kind of response from those here. Some here are dealing with deeper more complicated issues that affect our faith.

  So I ask “why do you come here”? I’m not saying you can’t, but it’s still makes me curious. I was told to get off this site when I made my first post and I didn’t think that was right. I only expressed my opinion.

  It sounds to me that you need a friend. If you’re looking for companionship, why not call someone from the KH and go out and have a soda? Maybe study the WT together?

  But you can still come here and express your opinion, whatever it is.

  You just might want to rethink how often you express it and who you are asking it of.
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  Changes to the Kingdom Interlinear

  by PanzerZauberei in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the 1969 kit the society used a book by bible scholar justus lipsius as source material for their upright stake "stauros" doctrine of the death of christ.

  they used an image of a man hung on an upright stake with no crossbeam attached to it.

  then they placed a caption under it saying that the illustration came from lipsius.

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  "Care Naught"?

  Wow, he must be smart!
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  Rehab has been very interesting, but ended nightmarishly....

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi guys...oompa here.

  was i in rehab for alcohol addiction or jwd addiction!?!?

  !......no computers or cellphones allowed so i have been awol awhile..... ya, i finally made my self sick enough on booze to realize i was really sick and tired of being sick and tired....so checked myself into rehab without any planning at all and while wife was out of town on a family retreat...it was a a very desperate moment in my life, and i was extremely physically and emotionally sick....i was so desperate i took zero time to reseach where to go, but called an old school friend who said rehab had saved his life and he made the calls and actually took me and helped me check in to the place he went to 5 years ago.

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  Congrats and welcome back. That took a lot of courage and points to recovery road. Good for you.

  Sorry about the report of no elders visiting you. I've grown to accept that as a given. (dont forget, you cant count the time) But when I accept it, it doesnt hurt as bad as expecting it and not getting it.
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  Was There Any Song That You Regarded As Special, That Got You In a Good Mood, etc...

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i love music.

  when i was a kid, i had hundreds of cassettes where i taped all my favorite songs.. some songs would give me the chills.

  some would be so good, i'd replay them over and over again!

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  Black Dog – Led Zeppelin

  Thank You

  Immigrant Song

  Hangman

  Babe I’m gonna Leave you

  Loner Neil Young

  Sugar Mountain

  Cinnamon Girl

  Down by the River

  Everybody Knows this is Nowhere

  Powderfinger

  Pink Cadillac - Bruce Springsteen

  Baby I’m Amazed - McCartney

  Every Night

  Oh Woman Oh Why

  Smile away

  It’s only Love – Lennon

  In My Life - the Beatles

  If I fell

  Mr Soul - Neil Young/Steve Stills live Woodstock version

  Skating Away - Jethro Tull

  BTW………….can you be DF’d for listening to Zeppelin???
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  Ex-Elders Outnumber Elders In My KH; what does that suggest to you?

  by Room 215 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  right now, the number of ex- elders (either resigned, pushed out or df'd) outnumber the present elders; what does this suggest to you?

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  monkeyman

  They're like creatures that eat their own young.

  Blondie: HAHAHAHA

  What a line! Sad but true. The last BOE I was on I saw some of the most hateful, mean spirited things said about other brothers during a meeting for recommendation. Wow. Dont want to be a part of that anymore.