they are doing wonderful.
thriving in fact!
i put 'girl' in ( )'s because they were not my girlfriends.
Very encouraging story tresdecu! Thanks for posting.
I too hope to someday be free of the WTS to be my own person and live my own life and do the things that I feel are important to being a good person. Best wishes to you and your wife on her 5 yr fade plan
-Dig
minimus started a thread asking why the resurrection was comforting.
i said i would start a new thread to get more responses to *my question*:.
why do so many people want to see dead relatives?
I haven't had any loved ones die (aside from family I never knew or met maybe once in my life) so I can't comment from experience, however in thinking about parent's who have lost their young children I would imagine they would want to see them again to make up for lost time so to speak, especially those parents who only had a few moments with their children.
If I put myself in that situation I would want to see my family again, just because we are so close and I miss them even when I don't see them for a day or two. I like their company and I like having such a strong connection, so losing a part of that connection would be hard to deal with, and I can't imagine not wanting to see my family again.
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/respected-jehovahs-witness-groomed-and.5911846.jp.
a respected jehovah's witness who served as an elder betrayed the trust placed in him by abusing young girls.. james michael o'brien followed one schoolgirl into a kitchen when she was alone away from adults making tea at meetings he was hosting.. .
he pulled her towards him, sexually assaulted her and began to kiss her.. .
Stories like this make me sick to my stomach. We hear from the platform how we need to stay away from the "world" and other religions because of these types of things, yet they don't even acknowledge that it's going on within the WTS as well. I'm sure Jehovah's spirit was over the brothers when they appointed this disgusting man as an elder.
no one watches my every move.. no one reads my thoughts.. no one monitors my dreams.. no one passes judgment, or keeps tabs.
my actions dont get recorded; to be used against me or in my favor.. .
i think, and i breathe and i act: alone.
I really like that.
haven't posted my own topic in a while, so i thought i'd go with this one.
back in october/november mj started a thread on help with thanksgiving objections.
so, can you guys offer help with christmas objections?
There is a section in the God's Love book in the chapter about holidays, not sure if he has a copy or if there is a way to obtain one, but you should look into it as it has an interesting paragraph about JW's with unbelieving mates. I'm not sure of the exact words it uses and I'm pretty sure it was applied to Thanksgiving (although I don't see why Christmas or any other holiday couldn't be used here) but it says something to the effect that if a JW has an unbelieving mate that wants to get together with his/her family for Thanksgiving, the JW might see it as simply an opportunity to get together with his mate's family for dinner and to enjoy each other's company. He doesn't have to see it as celebrating the holiday, just as a time to get together with family that he might not otherwise have a chance to see, since this is usually when most people have days off from work.
Use this as a starting point, just to establish that while, yes, your family is celebrating the holiday, like Christmas, for him it can simply be about the association, just getting together with your family and talking, laughing, sharing stories...just enjoying spending time together. He doesn't have to join in the festivities, like gift giving, singing, decorting a tree, or whatever the case may be, if his conscience is affected by it.
Ah, got it! Thank you all!
This might be a silly question, so forgive me, but what does r&f stand for?
santa stops at 3 ho's .
ho!ho!ho!
merry christmas all .
LOL !!!!!
the other day, i noticed a jw wife that has 5 children, she seems very not happy with her jw husband, does it make it harder for her to leave him?.
It would depend on if she is unhappy with her husband only, or if its really the religion she is unhappy with. IMO it would be harder if she wanted to leave him but stay in the religion. There would be consequences to her leaving him (DFing, shunning from family/friends), emotional and mental grief, and depending on the ages of the children there is always the matter of who will care for the kids and will they adopt the attitude of the other witnesses who shun her.
A lot must be weighing on her mind if she is contemplating leaving her husband, so it must be an extremely difficult thing for her to even think about.
the whole wt yesterday, which was supposed to be about love, actually centered on how we should react to 'persecutors'.
it was horrible to hear the audience comments...calling 'worldly people' everything from 'they are unkind and mean' to them being 'hateful and unneighborly'.
i sat there and thought about how this 'us vs. them' mentality is the very thing that is contributing to the divisive and separatist world we live in.
Wait for next week, that is the "real" article on practicing love for the brothers and sisters.
Woohoo, I can't wait....
How anyone can claim to be a "true" Christian yet show such an unloving attitude toward non-Jw's just blows my mind. You would think they would see the hypocrisy in making such a false claim.
