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  CRAPPING DEAD DINOSAUR MEAT....and the religious implications...

  by Terry in

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  before man....before the adam/eve saga.......how would you explain the nature of life on earth in terms of sin?

  millions of years passed before man and sin.

  (let that sink in a few seconds.........).

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  Like I said before - the notion that no animal or human ate meat before the flood is not Biblical.

  James is correct.

  The circle of life is quite clear in Genesis.
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  CRAPPING DEAD DINOSAUR MEAT....and the religious implications...

  by Terry in

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  before man....before the adam/eve saga.......how would you explain the nature of life on earth in terms of sin?

  millions of years passed before man and sin.

  (let that sink in a few seconds.........).

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  RE: theology and carnivores:

  Genesis 1: 24-25

  24 a Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures after 1 their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after 1 their kind”; and it was so. 25 God made the a beasts of the earth after 1 their kind, and the cattle after 1 their kind, and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good

  THe word for beast is "chayah" and in the rest of the bible is used to describe a carnivore numerous times also note the distinction between beast and cattle, if both were herbavores there would be no need to make a distinction.

  There is no "christian" theological doctrine about carnivores.
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  CRAPPING DEAD DINOSAUR MEAT....and the religious implications...

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  before man....before the adam/eve saga.......how would you explain the nature of life on earth in terms of sin?

  millions of years passed before man and sin.

  (let that sink in a few seconds.........).

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  What a strange thing to say.

  No really, think about it.

  Everytime a believer plays the lottery or gambles he is putting his faith in Chance and not God.

  Look at what Terry posted:

  We are simply the result of blind chance and millions of years of struggling to survive to pass life on to the next struggling soul.

  One can believe that God did it or that "blind chance" did.

  Of course there are those that believe in both and neither so...
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  CRAPPING DEAD DINOSAUR MEAT....and the religious implications...

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  before man....before the adam/eve saga.......how would you explain the nature of life on earth in terms of sin?

  millions of years passed before man and sin.

  (let that sink in a few seconds.........).

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  you dont see it uh?

  Of course I do, what make you think otherwise?
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  CRAPPING DEAD DINOSAUR MEAT....and the religious implications...

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  before man....before the adam/eve saga.......how would you explain the nature of life on earth in terms of sin?

  millions of years passed before man and sin.

  (let that sink in a few seconds.........).

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  Some people believe in God and some in chance.

  Some have faith in God and some in chance.
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  Why believe in unappealing things?

  by Terry in

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  jehovah's witnesses find hell unappealing.

  so, they simply don't believe in it.. yet, most christians probably do believe in hell.. .

  no, it is pointless to say that one group "follows the bible" and the other group doesn't.. theology is indebted to the influence of "explainers" and "interpreters" who stamp certain things authoratatively.. .

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  I was never a JW and even though my mother, sister and quite a few elders have tried to convert me, it has never stuck BUT I can say this about why my mother and father and sister are:

  My mother became one because the JW's had answers to all the question she had about relgion and God, questions that the RCC didn't answer ( even though she never asked), She likes that she knows what she has to do to be saved.

  My older sister became one because of bible studies with my mom and because she liked knowing that if she did this, that and the other things, she would be saved.

  The BOTH loved the fellowship, soemthing they never had with the RCC because, well, they never went to church.

  My Dad became a JW because he was married to my mom, but stayed because he too loved the fellowship.
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  Question for '607' apologists

  by Jeffro in

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  jehoiakim refused to pay tribute to nebuchadnezzar after 3 years (2 kings 24:1) because nebuchadnezzar attacked egypt in the previous december.

  this is attested by both bm21946 (rows 5 to 7, reverse side) and josephus (antiquities of the jews, book x, chapter 6).. in what year was this attack on egypt?.

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  I wonder what will happen when the WT eventually changes their 607 doctrine because of a 'new light"?
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  What evidence is there for Jesus (NOT USING THE BIBLE)?

  by punkofnice in

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  i have often wondered if there is any actual archealogical evidence that jesus existed other than the claims of the bible.. i don't want to go down the route of 'you can't prove he didn't exist' as this is tiresome.

  or 'well pontius pilate existed we found a stone with his name on so it follows jesus existed!

  ' that won't cut it.

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  RE: the golden rule.

  Almost every culture had it in one way or another, of course it tended to be more of an "internal" rule rather than one that was universally applied to those outside that culture/civilization and in some cases even, it was only for "equals amongst equals".

  It is important to realize that in Jesus' teachings, the "golden rule" was the starting point and not the "end goal".
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  athiest this is for you!

  by unstopableravens in

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  i have to give props to most athiest on jwn, for one thing, you guys dont run away, i have been having discussions on youtube with jw and it is so frustrating.

  what makes it frustrating is unlike me and athiest ,the jw and myself both claim the same thing that the bible is gods word, almost everytime i get into a discussion with one they make a claim i show them bible verse and they have no answer, so they attack me other than the point i bring up, than they say om under satan control, all for just using the bible.

  than they say not to contact them anymore.

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  Logically thinking Yes

  The ancients were just human just like us remember.

  I misunderstood your point, what you are saying is the ancients believed because they were ignorant of the world as WE NOW know it, yes?

  But what about believers today?
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  athiest this is for you!

  by unstopableravens in

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  2. beliefs

  i have to give props to most athiest on jwn, for one thing, you guys dont run away, i have been having discussions on youtube with jw and it is so frustrating.

  what makes it frustrating is unlike me and athiest ,the jw and myself both claim the same thing that the bible is gods word, almost everytime i get into a discussion with one they make a claim i show them bible verse and they have no answer, so they attack me other than the point i bring up, than they say om under satan control, all for just using the bible.

  than they say not to contact them anymore.

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  Yes their beliefs are founded on emotions and ignorance by people who lived more 2000 years ago who were quite ignorant about the world

  they lived in and of themselves but were nevertheless proficient in embellishing stories concerning their god(s) to whom they worshiped to.

  In practice not accepting that known ignorance is truthfully being intellectually dishonest

  And you know that for a fact of all beleivers?