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  Richard Dawkins defends “mild pedophilia,” says it does not cause “lasting harm”

  by chrisuk in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/richard_dawkins_defends_mild_pedophilia_says_it_does_not_cause_lasting_harm/.

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  jgnat

  Gee, am I invisible? There's a group of scientists who have been looking for moral commonalities across cultures, and they have found them! Objective morality. I've mentioned so in my last four posts on this thread.
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  Richard Dawkins defends “mild pedophilia,” says it does not cause “lasting harm”

  by chrisuk in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/richard_dawkins_defends_mild_pedophilia_says_it_does_not_cause_lasting_harm/.

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  jgnat

  Simon, OK, I'll modify my statement, "by degrees". Who or what is included under "do no harm" varies by culture. For some, it is within the immediate tribe. For others (such as Jainism in India), the "do no harm" extends to all creatures, including insects.

  Also, as you noted, other religious prohibitions or taboos can result in extreme behavior, such as mothers shunning their children. The mother tells herself it is for her child's "own good". There's some serious mental gymnastics going on there for her to override her natural instincs.
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  Heaven is For real - Akiane Kramarik / Col,Todd- Visions of Heaven , real or imaginned

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today, i watched a movie called" heaven is for real", before we go any further i want to say i have become an atheist having been exposed to christianity from an early age with different denominations up into my teens , and then being converted to a jehovahs witness for 33 years , and then disaccociating myself from that religion some years ago.. however i am intrigued with what i have witnessed today , not only the movie , but where it has led me.

  fair enough , movies take liberties in what they present even with so called true stories , i can live with that.. i think their has been a lot said about col and his pastor father being an influence on his sons visions.i can live with that too.. in the movie col todd related to the painting akiane kramarik made about jesus ?

  they never knew anything about one another.

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  jgnat

  From the wiki page:

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  Richard Dawkins defends “mild pedophilia,” says it does not cause “lasting harm”

  by chrisuk in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/richard_dawkins_defends_mild_pedophilia_says_it_does_not_cause_lasting_harm/.

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  jgnat

  All cultures, across spectrum, all religions, have a morality to prevent harm.
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  Update on Fading Question

  by wallievase in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the other day i posted my delimma about dealing with family and leaving.. update: my wife came home from the hall sunday (i have now missed about 3 weeks in a row) and the elders now want to schedule a sheperding call.. should i just blow them off, or when they come over (because im sure my wife will have them over even if i decline) just tell them i cant do it right now?.

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  jgnat

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhAka2-WMQg

  If she arranges a surprise visit from the elders, quietly leave the house.

  I am a strong believer in working on the marriage and blowing off the elders. Those closest to you should be on your side. Work on that. Even while "in" hubby protected me from prying elders and pioneers and made excuses for me. We always knew we had each other's back. It didn't hurt that I had all sorts of "dirt" on him if the elders ever knew....
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  A "follow up" meeting?!?!

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well, now they want a follow up visit!

  when you tell the elders that you have doubts and they say " its okay, we have had our doubts.

  having doubts is not apostasy.

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  jgnat

  Maaaan. Are you a sucker for punishment?
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  most important event in the 20th century

  by scotoma in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  june 28 1914 archduke ferdinand was killed by a serbian government sponsored assassination team.. this was the trigger event of world war i. actually some have called it world war (part 1) followed less than 30 years later by world war (part 2).. in retrospect this was a useful date for jw's.. it has propelled them for 100 years.. of course jw's have massaged their predictions about the significance of 1914 over the years.. do you feel that jw's would be what they are today without that great war?

  do you think that the shooting down of the passenger plane over east ukraine will be an equivalent moment that pushes putin into a corner where he will have to fight the west?

  in other words will we look back on that event as the beginning of world war (part 3)?.

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  jgnat

  Read the latest book?
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  Richard Dawkins defends “mild pedophilia,” says it does not cause “lasting harm”

  by chrisuk in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/richard_dawkins_defends_mild_pedophilia_says_it_does_not_cause_lasting_harm/.

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  jgnat

  http://www.moralfoundations.org
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  Is is right to leave your job for the WT? In an assembly interview

  by skin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we had an assembly part here 6 months ago where a sister was interviewed by the co because she left her job to do more wt work, she talked about some jobs that she had recently been offered with good pay but turned these down.

  most listening to this is would be thinking that this sister is being blessed by jehovah for taking this stand, how much faith she has to do this and what can we do personally with our own jobs, made me almost feel guilty for having a job.

  anyway come forward 6 months to now, this family has had to move to another region because the husband couldnt find enough work to support his family here.

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  jgnat

  Unnecessary hardship. I knew a JW convert, an elder who got all the crap jobs, close to retirement and still renting. How will he scrape by on Old Age Security?
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  most important event in the 20th century

  by scotoma in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  june 28 1914 archduke ferdinand was killed by a serbian government sponsored assassination team.. this was the trigger event of world war i. actually some have called it world war (part 1) followed less than 30 years later by world war (part 2).. in retrospect this was a useful date for jw's.. it has propelled them for 100 years.. of course jw's have massaged their predictions about the significance of 1914 over the years.. do you feel that jw's would be what they are today without that great war?

  do you think that the shooting down of the passenger plane over east ukraine will be an equivalent moment that pushes putin into a corner where he will have to fight the west?

  in other words will we look back on that event as the beginning of world war (part 3)?.

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  jgnat

  Pinker got down and dirty with the stats. He also roughly removes our rose coloured glasses of the past. The odds that the US and Russia will engage in overt warfare is remote.