Posts by jgnat

Noah - that saintly man busy building Jehovah's boat while everyone else ignored him and partied on. Poor, poor Noah...
Job! Who can forget Job! He didn't even make the Hebrew list... Another miserable man.
Daniel - love that end-time prophecy!
Isaiah - same reason!
Ezekiel - same reason.

C. Do you have a favorite hero and why?

I like David. He spoke his mind. He "went ahead" of his elder brothers and sensibly killed a giant. He did not sit around in his King's court waiting to get his head lopped off. He had a fine sense of self-preservation. He sang his troubles away. He taught me how to handle depression.

Edited by - jgnat on 7 December 2002 18:54:32

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Who is Shiloh?

by jgnat in

what got me studying shiloh?

the following is extracted from wt october 1, 2002 comfort in a troubled world, nov 24 study, cultivate obedience as the end draws near paragraphs 1, 2. the article goes on to explain how the faithful and discreet slave are ambassadors substituting for christ(para 4).

here are the beginning paragraphs:.

jgnat

I agree with you, bjc2read. What you name a person has significance, as well. Since Shiloh is also a place associated with peace and tranquility, I believe the name is associated with peace and tranquility as well. For instance, my middle name means "God's Pearl", which I think is lovely. I try to live up to my name.

I think it is significant that the WTS choses to ignore this sense of meaning, and focuses entirely on rulership.

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A Poll - Watchtower's Favorite Bible Heroes

by jgnat in

of all the bible heroes, who are the watchtower's favorites?

i have a hunch, but i want to hear what you think first.

i pulled this list from hebrews 11:3-39. .

jgnat

Of all the bible heroes, who are the Watchtower's favorites? I have a hunch, but I want to hear what you think first. I pulled this list from Hebrews 11:3-39.

A. Tell me who you think are the top five heroes the Watchtower Society champions, and

B. Who do you think the WTS ignores?

Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a huge crowd of witnesses to the life of faith, let us strip off every weight that slows us down, especially to the sin that so easily hinders our progress. Hebrews 12:1 NLT

Abel
Enoch
Noah
Abraham
Isaac
Jacob
Sarah
Joseph
Moses
people of Israel
Rahab the prostitute
Gideon
Barak
Samson
Jepthah
David
Samuel
("all the prophets" in Hebrews...what follows are my list of the major ones) Ahijah
Elijah
Micaiah
Jehu
Obadiah
Elisha
Joel
Jonah
Amos
Hosea
Micah
Isaiah
Nhum
Zephaniah
Jeremiah
Habakkuk
Daniel
Ezekiel
unknown martyrs

C. Do you have a favorite hero and why?

Edited by - jgnat on 7 December 2002 12:33:36

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Thank you. Do you know how valuable you are?

by concerned mama in

jw
friends

two and a half years ago, my daughter got in the car and asked, "mom, what's a jehovahs witness?

" and our lives changed.

like most people out in the world, i wasn't sure what a jw was.

jgnat

bttt

What wonderful things to say. They are so true, and I wish I had said them. I am glad I have found a local friend because of this board, and I hope to meet you face to face one day.

You are so right about how easy it is to find negative websites on the WTS. The other day, my daughter was considering joining Watkins, but was afraid they might be a pyramid scheme. I told her, "give me a minute, we can find out right away". I did a quick google search associating Watkins with pyramid and other nasty words. No hits. I said, "You have nothing to worry about. The same search for Jehovah's Witnesses will give you tons of hits."

At that very moment, my honey was walking by. "Hey!"

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COMMENTS YOU WILL NOT HEAR AT THE 12-8-02 WT STUDY

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 12-8-02 wt study .

october 15, 2002 wt, page 13 .

( red highlighted comments are wts ; rest is mine other than titles and subtitles).

jgnat

Thanks for your comments, Blondie. I was struck by the frequent references to the power of the Devil in an article entitled "Jehovah Cares for You". Over and over the sheep are exhorted to cling to Jehovah (read WTS) like Saran Wrap. Stick a toe out, and you will be DEVOURED. Supposedly a measly 0.1% of the world's population enjoys this exclusive protection in a world, by all description, reigned over by The Other Guy.

Take a peek outside, you lurkers. It is not raining pitch. There are a lot of lovely people out here, and the sun is shining.

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She's in Hospital

by Yerusalyim in

i dropped off liza at the hospital today.

bad mojo at first.

her assessment appointment was at 10am, we showed up at 9:40 and were the only clients in the waiting room.

jgnat

Talk about flashbacks...my mother was diagnosed bipolar disorder when I was a teen. She could get really nasty at times, and my dad rode it out. He waited until all the kids were grown and she was fairly stable before he left her. Boy, was she mad. She figured dad would be there to take care of her forever. Dad was very generous, though. He gave her the house and a monthly allowance (she had never worked outside the home). What he got was his freedom, and he kept his conscience clear.

Through my adult life, I have had to step in on occassion to get mom back on track. My ex is schizophrenic, and my son has been diagnosed with that disease as well. It is pure hell trying to get the right supports in place, and nearly impossible to get help for the affected family. Congrats on getting help for yourself and the kids.

As much as you feel responsibility towards your wife, there may be a time when you will have to cut and run, for your sake and for your kids. By the way, my mom found a new boyfriend and has remained stable for over 10 years.

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The Watchtower Society Doesn't Care About Anything

by minimus in

jw
friends

the wt.

society doesn't care about how outsiders view them.

they don't care about how the rank and file look at them.they don't give any credence to congregational elders or ministerial servants or pioneers.

jgnat

I think Bethel does care about their public image of the society. They tell the r&f they don't care what the television says about them. Otherwise, why would their teachings get noticably paranoid after the last round of bad publicity? I also notice they make a big deal about the JW sacrifice during WW II in Germany. They get themselves invited to every "survivors of the holocaust" memorial.

Problem is, with rigor mortis setting in, the organization is functionally incapable of change. They don't know how to care.

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