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  What hope is there then?

  by sayitsnotso in

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  if jws don't have the truth; if there is no paradise earth; if there is no end of this system; if death is all there is, then what hope do we have to look forward too?.

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  JWoods

  A) There is a God (thus hope) B) There is no God (and no hope)

  I don't see how the idea that there is no God equates to the idea that there is no hope. Ancient man demonstrably did not believe in the current forms of God - but did dream of the ability to fly. After many generations, the hope of flight was realized, and without divine interference. It even went so far as to land humans on the moon.

  Thus, there is always the human hope that future generations will accomplish far more than we have. This is in many ways much more satisfying (and demonstrably much less selfish) than holding only the purely personal hope that we will individually fly around in heaven.

  It might also be pointed out that in almost all religions, there is a carrot and stick belief system. For every hope, there is also an almighty fear...hellfire, armageddon, being reincarnated as a grasshopper, and so on. If the hope were big enough on its own, why scare people into holding onto it?
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  What Must Be the Case if Christianity is True?

  by leavingwt in

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  john loftus:.

  what must be the case if christianity is true?.

  that the highest created being, known as satan or the devil, led an angelic rebellion against an omnipotent omniscient omnibenelovent omnipresent god, and expected to win--which makes satan out to be pure evil and dumber than a box of rocks.. .

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  Isn't that like Kahn proving that he was better than Kirk?

  And we all know how well that worked out -

  BTW - sensors indicate that the thread has been successfully hijacked, captain.
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  My Family Being Verbally Abused by MS

  by daringhart13 in

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  2. beliefs

  someone talk me out of going to jail.. i just found out an ms called my sister and verbally abused her.

  told her she was 'unspiritual and inactive and he doesn't have to listen to her'.......he then continued with what a 'crappy mother she is' etc.. i'm in a blind rage.

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  JWoods

  Just a thought after reading this again this afternoon - and note that I have been gone from the JWs for over 30 years...

  But - isn't this extremely presumptuous for a lowly MS to do all by himself without having an elder in on it?

  Shouldn't such an MS be in trouble with the local BOE?

  Hard to believe they would send an MS to do such dirty work...
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  What Must Be the Case if Christianity is True?

  by leavingwt in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  john loftus:.

  what must be the case if christianity is true?.

  that the highest created being, known as satan or the devil, led an angelic rebellion against an omnipotent omniscient omnibenelovent omnipresent god, and expected to win--which makes satan out to be pure evil and dumber than a box of rocks.. .

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  JWoods

  Wow...You actually knew the name of that episode.

  The ship's computer contains all recorded human knowledge.

  The science officer has the technical ability to filter out the bullshit.
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  What hope is there then?

  by sayitsnotso in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if jws don't have the truth; if there is no paradise earth; if there is no end of this system; if death is all there is, then what hope do we have to look forward too?.

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  JWoods

  (including your virgins, if that's what makes you happy, JWoods. Ha, ha...).

  Well, I don't know about "happy", but in the context of the thread - I can already afford pretty much all the ice cream I want. I already have the ability to fly, having gotten my license at 19 and owned a Citabria for a number of years. I have NOT had 72 virgins, alas...

  So ---
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  What Must Be the Case if Christianity is True?

  by leavingwt in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  john loftus:.

  what must be the case if christianity is true?.

  that the highest created being, known as satan or the devil, led an angelic rebellion against an omnipotent omniscient omnibenelovent omnipresent god, and expected to win--which makes satan out to be pure evil and dumber than a box of rocks.. .

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  JWoods

  A GAME!

  Winners and Losers.....

  God: the supernal Referee!

  I think I saw an old Star Trek like that - "The Gamesters of Triskelion". Three bored brain-creatures addicted to gambling living in fish-bowls.

  James T. Kirk got them straightened out after a little BDSM from his hot gladiator trainer-girl.
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  What hope is there then?

  by sayitsnotso in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if jws don't have the truth; if there is no paradise earth; if there is no end of this system; if death is all there is, then what hope do we have to look forward too?.

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  JWoods

  Life forever in Paradise is a complete rip-off compared to life forever with God, in Heaven, with free ice cream and the ability to fly.

  And 72 virgins.
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  Do any of you still believe in 'Hellfire'? heh

  by theMadJW in

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  that they (trinity) are burning billions alive...forever?

  with worms that live forever gnawing on them?.

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  Is he saying they're not so "Faithful & Discreet" when they have all those faults and after they made all those mistakes?

  There could be something BIPOLAR going on there.
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  What hope is there then?

  by sayitsnotso in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if jws don't have the truth; if there is no paradise earth; if there is no end of this system; if death is all there is, then what hope do we have to look forward too?.

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  JWoods

  If JWs don't have the truth; if there is no paradise earth; if there is no end of this system; if death is all there is, then what hope do we have to look forward too?

  The paradise earth myth is just the JW version of pie in the sky. All the other religions have a version of it: Buddism has nirvana, Catholics and Protestants have heaven with harps, Islam has heaven with 72 virgins, and so on. The question is: of the life that we actually have, and can do something with - how much are we willing to give up for some pie in the sky?
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  What Must Be the Case if Christianity is True?

  by leavingwt in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  john loftus:.

  what must be the case if christianity is true?.

  that the highest created being, known as satan or the devil, led an angelic rebellion against an omnipotent omniscient omnibenelovent omnipresent god, and expected to win--which makes satan out to be pure evil and dumber than a box of rocks.. .

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  It would also mean that the omnipotent angry God approves and provides examples of human sacrifice.

  Or else everyone must DIE.