the bible predicts that there will be many false prophets in the last days.
here are some examples:.
matthew 24:11: "many false prophets will arise and will mislead many.
In fact, even the 2012 doomsday crackpots can dodge the "false prophet" label under the Watchtower definition of the term. They're merely interpreting ancient Mayan calendars...they're not originating prophecy!
You know - I have heard some "stock investment counselors" that had that sort of spin, now that I think about it.
i'm afraid of starting a new post because i've stepped on a few feet here with my last post... but i still love you guys.. last night i went home to find my wife and her friend on the couch with the bible, ready to show me how i'm wrong and exercising "apostate thinking".
my wife said, "i am unable to fight you with the bible because you know more than me about it.
but k** knows more and will be able to show you how you are wrong.. so my wife went into the other room so as not to be stumbled by my discussion.
Did all prophets do prophecy?
Yes. Otherwise they would not have been called prophets.
The Watchtower Society has done numerous prophecies and called themselves prophets for years, as leavingWT and others have proved above.
As these prophecies did not come true - they are false prophets.
Anything else is pathetic excuse-making for the false prophecy.
i'm afraid of starting a new post because i've stepped on a few feet here with my last post... but i still love you guys.. last night i went home to find my wife and her friend on the couch with the bible, ready to show me how i'm wrong and exercising "apostate thinking".
my wife said, "i am unable to fight you with the bible because you know more than me about it.
but k** knows more and will be able to show you how you are wrong.. so my wife went into the other room so as not to be stumbled by my discussion.
So basically, they are the "prophet" class, spirit directed, and spirit inspired when they write this stuff down -
But, if it does not come true (and of course it never does) then they are NOT PROPHESYING and NOT SPIRIT INSPIRED???
Little kids can lie better than that...
i'm afraid of starting a new post because i've stepped on a few feet here with my last post... but i still love you guys.. last night i went home to find my wife and her friend on the couch with the bible, ready to show me how i'm wrong and exercising "apostate thinking".
my wife said, "i am unable to fight you with the bible because you know more than me about it.
but k** knows more and will be able to show you how you are wrong.. so my wife went into the other room so as not to be stumbled by my discussion.
I love question 8 in that quote: "The Prophet that Jehovah has raised up and whose work must be finished before Har-Mageddon is identified as who or what?"
Debator, care to expand?
the bible predicts that there will be many false prophets in the last days.
here are some examples:.
matthew 24:11: "many false prophets will arise and will mislead many.
An excellent post, and an excellent point, OMG.
Apologist Debator is pushing this "not really prophets" idea on brotherdans thread - wonder what he thinks about this?
i'm afraid of starting a new post because i've stepped on a few feet here with my last post... but i still love you guys.. last night i went home to find my wife and her friend on the couch with the bible, ready to show me how i'm wrong and exercising "apostate thinking".
my wife said, "i am unable to fight you with the bible because you know more than me about it.
but k** knows more and will be able to show you how you are wrong.. so my wife went into the other room so as not to be stumbled by my discussion.
Hi Jwoods
Please do not put words in my mouth. I am saying nothing of the sort. I am saying they simply do not do prophecy.
Seriously, do you even understand how insane the above statement is? They have been doing prophecy about the end of the world for their entire existence, and have been proven wrong when every single date came to pass and nothing happened.
They have now had to create a non-sensical redefinition (not to be found in ANY dictionary) about the word "generation" when that too passed away and all those people died.
They are FALSE PROPHETS, plain and simple.
i'm afraid of starting a new post because i've stepped on a few feet here with my last post... but i still love you guys.. last night i went home to find my wife and her friend on the couch with the bible, ready to show me how i'm wrong and exercising "apostate thinking".
my wife said, "i am unable to fight you with the bible because you know more than me about it.
but k** knows more and will be able to show you how you are wrong.. so my wife went into the other room so as not to be stumbled by my discussion.
HI Jwoods
I am not saying they are not accountable. Jehovah makes All shepherds from any people that have said they are Followers oif Jesus are accountable for how they teach and govern the flock under there care.
OK, but you are still saying that they can prophecy things and it doesn't matter if they don't come true? For example "millions now living will never die"???
What kind of accountability would any sane person call that?
i'm afraid of starting a new post because i've stepped on a few feet here with my last post... but i still love you guys.. last night i went home to find my wife and her friend on the couch with the bible, ready to show me how i'm wrong and exercising "apostate thinking".
my wife said, "i am unable to fight you with the bible because you know more than me about it.
but k** knows more and will be able to show you how you are wrong.. so my wife went into the other room so as not to be stumbled by my discussion.
This is the bible set understanding of inspired prophecy. Witnesses have never claimed to hear and speak words directly from Jehovah. they have never claimed inspiration!
All our understandings come from reasoning on already written bible prophecies and chronology. This is not the same. And you cannot twist it to be the same.
So they can just say anything they want, Debator, and it doesn't matter whether it comes true or not - because the words don't come from Jehovah?
Not a very solid foundation on which to build your faith, is it?
i'm afraid of starting a new post because i've stepped on a few feet here with my last post... but i still love you guys.. last night i went home to find my wife and her friend on the couch with the bible, ready to show me how i'm wrong and exercising "apostate thinking".
my wife said, "i am unable to fight you with the bible because you know more than me about it.
but k** knows more and will be able to show you how you are wrong.. so my wife went into the other room so as not to be stumbled by my discussion.
This girl also said that while prophecies of 1918/1919 and 1925 did not come true, other things happened in those years that fulfilled prophecy (i.e. End of WW1 and the establishment of the league of nations. I've never heard that one before...
But what difference does it make - if that is not what they prophecied?
terry, since you have long proclaimed your inability to comprehend the greatest expression of love in the universe, substitutionary atonement; perhaps this scene from the last of the mohicans will help you to understand.. the chief has just handed down a death sentence to the brunette daughter of the captured english general.
the english officer in this scene can speak both english and french.
since daniel day lewis can only speak mohican and english, and the cheif can only speak huron and french, the captured english officer must translate to the chief in french.
While we are waiting, I will answer for myself: If it would really save her, and there were no other way, then yes - of course.
However, if I were GOD - then I would not have to.
