i never even heard of an "apostate" until a jw called me that.....and i'm not even a jw!.
anyway, i am wondering if "apostate" is a term exclusive to cult groups only, like jws, mormons, and scientologists.
i have never heard of a methodist or baptist apostate, but surely, there must be such a thing.. i have seen complaints where "apostate" xtians say they were kicked off websites that promote "mainstream xianity" or denominational religions, so there can never really be any deep discussions or debates on those sites.
The Scientologists have, of course, by custom made up their own name for this along with just about everything else.
I believe such people are called "suppressives", but there are other names. Suppressives can also be non-scientologists who oppose their ideas.
I have printed out over 50 pages of Scientology catch phrases and names they have created for just about everything in their cult religious experience.
i never saw this on jwn, either i missed it or it wasn't here, so i post.. this is a recent story (july 27) and a follow-up on the second video:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdg5f43c2pe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waz_stctt5k&feature=related.
"we can afford to have them professionally built, but we are not just building buildings, we are building Christians. We will need the skills in the new system".
Well, then - where are their railroad engineers, airline pilots, power plant operators, oil drillers, sea captains, and so on. Guess they are leaving everything except the construction trades up to god...
Agreed - this IS pure crap.
i never saw this on jwn, either i missed it or it wasn't here, so i post.. this is a recent story (july 27) and a follow-up on the second video:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdg5f43c2pe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waz_stctt5k&feature=related.
It does bring up the whole question of why these people seem to be addicted to the concept of volunteer building -
They have hundreds of millions of dollars, if not billions. Why are they so cheap they cannot afford professional construction if they really need these JW-only assembly halls? I thought money was not supposed to matter to them.
Given their all-out obsession with "preaching the word", wouldn't it be better to pay worldly people to build this junk and let the JWs be in field service?
my wife is searching for facts that will prove to her why the bible is or is not the authentic word of god.
she knows the direction i am leaning and i have shown her a few examples of why i feel as i do.
however, it is always good to hear the opinions of others.this is where you come in.... how would you answer the following questions:.
There are two important questions being addressed here:
1) - Is the Bible Authentic? I think it is probably about as authentic (in the sense of being a reasonable facsimile through translation) as any other documents from this era. As authentic probably as the works of Virgil, or the Chinese chronicles of their history back thousands of years.
2) - Is the Bible the infallible word of God? Here is the problem. The Bible is a great work of religious tradition, moral values, symbolic myth, and even poetry. It is the basis for one of the major religions on earth. However, there is a great deal of proof (to a rational viewer) that it can no longer be considered to be the literal truth (and thus not the literally true words of God). Even the Catholic Church has begun to acknowledge this/
Interestingly, the JWs have also - for example: They transcribed the biblical "days of creation" into first 7,000 years (with absolutely NO biblical reference proofs), later (confronted by scientific knowledge that 7,000 years is a hopelessly short interval for a creation epoch) - they say that are unknown but very long millenia in length. We just had a thread here that shows they have gone to extreme lengths to distort the story of Saul, the witch of Endor, and the spirit of Samuel - thus again saying (in effect) that what is written in the Bible cannot be interpreted as literal word-for-word truth.
Everybody today takes what they want from the Bible, ignores embarrasing or unscientific issues, and essentially makes up their own religious mind in the long run.
my wife is searching for facts that will prove to her why the bible is or is not the authentic word of god.
she knows the direction i am leaning and i have shown her a few examples of why i feel as i do.
however, it is always good to hear the opinions of others.this is where you come in.... how would you answer the following questions:.
I will go with the points on #4:
Scientific Accuracy - The account of the flood pretty much takes care of that - it is simply not physically possible.
Historical Accuracy - Who can honestly believe people in ancient times lived 900+ years?
Fulfillment of Prophecy - Several are problematical - "not a stone upon a stone of the temple", for example -
Candor of Bible Writers - Probably most seem candid enough, but one cannot overlook many contradictions between them.
Exactly how much does it cost to post a bullshit story nowadays?
this is gonna be my very first time as a ms.. i'll be on leave for about 3 weeks.. our cong.
is still up and coming, and there is a need for brothers.
right now there is only one elder, 2 ms's including me.. elder told me if i work hard enough and display my love for jehovah, then they will make me an acting secretary in no time.so i am working my a*s off to get that "position".. .
Sorry, but I am fresh out of the sucker-style credibility.
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the passion and nemesis of henry viii, i believe.
the mention of jellied eel on marmot's thread about blood sausage inspired this.. syl.
I am leaving for the day - but I just wanted to add the word SLIME to this thread before going.
a friend of my sent me this cnn news story.
thought i share.. .
legendary author anne rice has announced that shes quitting christianity.. .
Well, she's generalizing, but its understandable. When you think Republican, one of the handful of demographics you think of would be church going Christians. They tend to be one of the more vocal than other conservatives.
More vocal, perhaps from some who have a political agenda. But it is largely a stereotype from the left. For example, isn't it a fact that most Catholics vote with the Democrats?
latin for "jerusalem is destroyed.".
uprisings against jews in germany and other countries during the early 19th century were called hep-hep riots.. burntheships, or others who know latin, can you help me?.
syl.
But that construction leaves out the verb "is" altogether, correct, Undercover?
I think snowbird is asking where you put the verb in Latin - midsentence, or at the end.
