Posts by ItsJustlittleoldme

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Ashamed

by Marvin Shilmer in

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but whoever has this worlds means for supporting life and beholds his brother having need and yet shuts the door of his tender compassions upon him, in what way does the love of god remain in him?

little children, let us love, neither in word nor with the tongue, but in deed and truth.1 john 3:17-18 nwt .

you must love your neighbor as yourselfmatt 22:39 nwt.

ItsJustlittleoldme

Yep, as they say, by their fruits ye shall know my disciples..

I guess you can't expect good fruit from a rotten tree, just as the bible says!

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Watchtower email sent to me by accident

by Quotes in

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as you may already know, i own the internet domain "watchtower.ca" (note, ".ca" stands for canada).

if you go to www.watchtower.ca (thinking it might be the bethel canada site, which it would be if non-idiots were working at bethel canada) you are redirected to http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com (heh heh heh).. but it gets better: any email sent to <anybody>@watchtower.ca gets sent to me ([email protected]).. i just thought i would solicit your comments on the email i received via this method.

it appearst that brian andersen was forwarding some information from his private home email address to his work email address.

ItsJustlittleoldme

What, bethelites have Internet access, and Email addresses?

WOW! Satan is allowed into the hallowed halls of Bethel..

Simply amazing <ROFL>..

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Wolves in sheep's clothing?

by SpannerintheWorks in

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i've been thinking about this for a long time.

whilst "in" the wbts other sisters and brothers are very loving and would do almost anything for you.

they are ultra - pleasant to new potential recruits and their families.

ItsJustlittleoldme

The minute you reject them? Who is them? The individual people, or the teachings of the WT?

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JW "policy" .vs. Personal conscience

by ItsJustlittleoldme in

i've been trying to show my jw friend that the organization has 'policies' that one must follow.. he keeps telling me the standard line, it's your personal conscience... .

for instance, in the no blood "policy", he argues that it is his conscience choice, he isn't 'told' he cannot take policy, it's his bible-based <gag> conscience that keeps him from taking blood.. .

then i retort what would happen if they get new light on that issue, does that mean that his conscience get's new light also?

ItsJustlittleoldme

Yep Ozzie,

And there inlies the problem, as they say...

Everyone I've talked to said that the first step for them out of their bondage as a WT slave was to realize that the organization is NOT god on earth..

Once that falls, everything else crumbles around it... I've never been a JW, so I do not know, but do you agree with that?

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JW "policy" .vs. Personal conscience

by ItsJustlittleoldme in

i've been trying to show my jw friend that the organization has 'policies' that one must follow.. he keeps telling me the standard line, it's your personal conscience... .

for instance, in the no blood "policy", he argues that it is his conscience choice, he isn't 'told' he cannot take policy, it's his bible-based <gag> conscience that keeps him from taking blood.. .

then i retort what would happen if they get new light on that issue, does that mean that his conscience get's new light also?

ItsJustlittleoldme

Jst2laws,

I couldn't agree with you more... His personal conscience is one of you can CHOOSE to follow god or you can CHOOSE to be an enemy of god...

That is all..

Thanks for the comments, I'll figure our a way to express them to him!!!!

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JW "policy" .vs. Personal conscience

by ItsJustlittleoldme in

i've been trying to show my jw friend that the organization has 'policies' that one must follow.. he keeps telling me the standard line, it's your personal conscience... .

for instance, in the no blood "policy", he argues that it is his conscience choice, he isn't 'told' he cannot take policy, it's his bible-based <gag> conscience that keeps him from taking blood.. .

then i retort what would happen if they get new light on that issue, does that mean that his conscience get's new light also?

ItsJustlittleoldme

OldHippie,

Thanks.. I've been trying to show him that his 'personal' conscience is 'tossed about like the winds'.. These are more examples I can bring to him to show this point..

Thanks again

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JW "policy" .vs. Personal conscience

by ItsJustlittleoldme in

i've been trying to show my jw friend that the organization has 'policies' that one must follow.. he keeps telling me the standard line, it's your personal conscience... .

for instance, in the no blood "policy", he argues that it is his conscience choice, he isn't 'told' he cannot take policy, it's his bible-based <gag> conscience that keeps him from taking blood.. .

then i retort what would happen if they get new light on that issue, does that mean that his conscience get's new light also?

ItsJustlittleoldme

Minimus,

Thanks for the suggestion.. I think I will try that with him.. I've been trying for a while now to get him to understand that yeah, his 'personal conscience' if free to make a choice:

The choice he is presented with is to choose to do things the WT way or to become an enemy of Jehovah... But, of couse, that is his choice :-)

It all comes back to, THE WT ISN'T JEHOVAH!!!!!!

Thanks again, great idea!!!

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JW "policy" .vs. Personal conscience

by ItsJustlittleoldme in

i've been trying to show my jw friend that the organization has 'policies' that one must follow.. he keeps telling me the standard line, it's your personal conscience... .

for instance, in the no blood "policy", he argues that it is his conscience choice, he isn't 'told' he cannot take policy, it's his bible-based <gag> conscience that keeps him from taking blood.. .

then i retort what would happen if they get new light on that issue, does that mean that his conscience get's new light also?

ItsJustlittleoldme

I've been trying to show my JW friend that the organization has 'policies' that one must follow.. He keeps telling me the standard line, it's your personal conscience...

For instance, in the no blood "policy", he argues that it is his conscience choice, he isn't 'told' he cannot take policy, it's his bible-based <gag> conscience that keeps him from taking blood..

Then I retort what would happen if they get new light on that issue, does that mean that his conscience get's new light also?

-- No answer --

No matter how hard I try, however, he will NOT admit that he is 'following' corporate policy..

So, by accident, I was searching the 1999 CD, and low and behold, look what I found:

Please note the stuff I highlighted in RED!!!! Wonder how he's gonna try and weasel out of that one, from his own literature?

*** g99 2/22 30 From Our Readers *** FromOurReaders

EndofPoverty Thank you so much for the June 8, 1998, Awake! series The End of Poverty Nears. It really put things in perspective and made me aware of my own complaining attitude. I am unemployed and have little spare money. I thought I was in poverty. Hardly! This article shows that there are others worse off than I am. I should be grateful for what I already havefood, clothing, good health and, most important, Jehovah. I so much look forward to the end of poverty. My resolve is to keep seeking Jehovahs Kingdom and to stop complaining.

C. W., New Zealand

Celibacy For some years I have been a reader of your magazines. I have to protest your one-sided reporting about the doctrines of the Catholic Church in the article The Bibles Viewpoint: Is Celibacy a Requirement for Christian Ministers? (June 8, 1998) There is no enforced celibacy in the Catholic Church! There is only a voluntarily chosen celibacy that is a prerequisite for a certain profession. Whoever claims that he was forced into celibacy is lying.

R. G., Germany

We believe that there is an important distinction between the phrase enforced celibacy and the notion that people are forced into celibacy. If, for example, a corporation establishes a dress code and hires only those who agree to adhere to it but fires those who violate it, then it could be said that the corporation has an enforced dress code. In a similar sense, it is fair to say that there is enforced celibacy in the Catholic priesthood. Our article, however, mainly points out the lack of a Scriptural basis for making celibacy a prerequisite for Christian ministers. (1 Timothy 3:2) Rather than criticizing those who choose singleness as a life course, the article noted that this has proved to be a rewarding and spiritually satisfying way of life for some.ED.

Edited by - itsjustlittleoldme on 10 September 2002 23:0:6

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New Light - Use LOGIC and Reason

by ItsJustlittleoldme in

from the apr 1, 2002 wt: (page 3 -4).

sorry, just read this and had to point out the similarities.. it's interesting, i think that they are talking about themselves .

should faith be based on reason?.

ItsJustlittleoldme

ROFL @ Derek

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Lunch with my JW sister - Topic: March on Bethel

by TTBoy in

"hey, did you know that people are marching on bethel later this month?".

sister - rolles eyes - "probobly a bunch of disgruntled df people.".

since most jws ignore the problem, don't know it actually exists, or discredit anyone speaking out against them, i understand why she knows nothing.

ItsJustlittleoldme

Hi TTBoy,

I think she played a bit of Theocratic warfare on you, either that or the organization played it on her, and she is just repeating it to you..

ONLY ONE WITNESS IS NEEDED TO BRING CHARGES!

Of course, anyone can bring charges against anyone else.. That does NOT mean in any way that the charges will be considered valid, and actions will be taken against the accused.. :-)

Ask her what would happen to the person bringing the charges if NO other witness can collaborate the charges, and the accused denies the charges? If she is honest, she'll have to tell you that nothing will happen to the accused, and the person doing the accusing will probably be warned to stop being a false witness, or just plain wait on Jehovah to straighten it out...