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  i don't like to dig deep into the bible... am i bad?

  by ?me? in

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  i totally appreciate the posters who have a ton of bible knowledge and love research, but me being a witness for a few decades find myself not really interested in many of the discussions here and at the meeting.

  the current "grace/undeserved kindness" post by sir82 is a prime example.. first off i do know that my personality is to be sceptical about most things, and i usually focus on things that i can see or are more simple, especially if it is a topic i am less interested in.. but am i bad because i don't really care if jesus died on a cross of stake?

  or i am not interested in trying to figure out when (and if ) jehovah is going to take care of wicked people or resurrect dead people........ i kind of figure we will find out when it happens.. sometimes if feel stupid about bible things, but i take pride in trying to live by the basic bible principles and laws (about stealing, adultery, bad language, etc), although i do have a good deal of general knowledge about the bible, i could care less about breaking down the different "loves" in the hebrew language or greek language, or whatever..... i guess i have a similar knowledge of the scriptures as the "christians" before the wts "helped us figure it out" starting around 1900. .

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  no,not bad at all, had to force myself reading the bible, especially the OT can be broing at times, however, there is something

  that we (ex and current JW) should have done from the beginning: read the context !!! esp. of scriptures WTS uses for their

  control and self-boasting attitude.

  Then, maybe, we would have seen, that shunning (2. John 10,11) applies not to DFD persons, that the faithful slave is not a prophesied class just an illustration, that the second coming of Christ is not seen through world events, that the 7 times of Daniel have no indication pointing to establishment of the heavenly kingdom 1914, etc...

  then, maybe, we would have been spared of lots of garbage, mind control, heart ache, inner conflicts....
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  Should a Christian see the movie "AVATAR"?

  by skeeter1 in

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  i give the movie a 6.5 score.

  the scenery was wonderful, but the plot was not zipped up well.

  it sort of follows the story-line of "dances with wolves", but in space.. .

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  seen it, in 3D, really recommend to watch in 3D, speciual effects are stunning, story is ok, nothing great, but ok...

  also sister overzealous and self-righteous from our hall even seen it the other day...

  so I guess, most JW wont object it...
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 01-03-10 WT Study (YOUR PRAYERS)

  by blondie in

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  comments you will not hear at the 01-03-2010 wt study (november 15, 2009, pages 3-7)(your prayers).

  review comments will be in red or headed by comments.

  wt material from today's wt will be in black.

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  penny2: personally i dont like this group hand holding either, but thats my personal opinion, if I dont like it, i dont do it !! No need to make a rule out of it...
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  How to keep a Jehovahs Witness busy...

  by Quirky1 in

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  www.biglongnow.com

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  inbetween

  hm, I found out the phone number and called, and guess what ?

  the householder was just praying to God to find the truth.

  Immedietaley started a bible study over the phone, because he never can leave his home, Satan put too many doors blocking him...
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  New light: Generation

  by 5thGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  got some info from the annual meeting.. unofficially, the 'generation' is now categorized as 2 groups.

  the first is 'the 1914 group' and the second is the younger anointed 'contemporaries' who 'actually work for a period of time with those anointed ones'.. the 'generation' is now 'the lifespan of those who actually saw the beginning of the sign and then the lifespan of those who worked with those who saw the beginning of the sign'.. here we go again....

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  teel, I was thinking the exact same, but then, I believe, they are just so sure of themselves, they pull out anything they want, the "spritual strong" ones will follow them, no doubt.

  What was the reaction of most JW to last WT-article nonsense rule about public paryer behaviour (not embracing etc) ??

  well, its from "mother", so its gold....no critic allowed...

  or why do you think, humility is soo emphasized ? (twisting real humility to braindead submission actaully)
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  Hillarious "Counsel" from Platform -Classic

  by lepermessiah in

  1. jw
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  i got this from a close friend -.

  this past weekend, the family attended the circus assembly.

  i skipped it, and didnt get a hard time for not going, which was a first.. anyway, my family didnt want to tell me about a couple of points from the d.o.

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  going to watch the movie tonight
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  Hillarious "Counsel" from Platform -Classic

  by lepermessiah in

  1. jw
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  i got this from a close friend -.

  this past weekend, the family attended the circus assembly.

  i skipped it, and didnt get a hard time for not going, which was a first.. anyway, my family didnt want to tell me about a couple of points from the d.o.

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  inbetween

  I thought, on stage they are not supposed to name directly certain books, movies etc because of lawsuits ?
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  conversation with wife

  by inbetween in

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  just a short info: my wife is not aware of me being here, and its not the time to tell her yet.. however, i time and again raise questions or even disagreement with some teachings of the wts, and she readily accepts them, but still believes, it is "the truth".

  but the other day, she talked about the anointed, the number going up, instead of down, and even saying, that maybe the number 144.000 is not literal after all, but maybe symbolic like everything else in revelation.. i said, i would not be surprised, if "new light" comes sooner or later.. she said, that the term "new light" seems overused,.

  i realised my chance, and put this thought deeper, example "generation" teaching, how it went from new, to newer, and back to older teachings etc... .

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  good point OTWA: the canyon might hopefully not be as deep. Because not even a year ago, I myself had this canyon. While questioning some teachings, I still thought, Jehovah will sort it out.

  However, it was only a matter of a short period of time, until this "canyon" was gone....it was not quite that big....
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  want proof that the GB votes on doctrine

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. watchtower
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  i would like to find proof of this without refering to ray franz's c.o.c.

  material.. is there anywhere a charter, a letter, a document that states stuff like a majority vote needed etc?.

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  cantleave: yes, thats the reality about it, the bible as guideline is only in theorie. I remember an elders meeting, where I brought up the point, that a certain case was perhaps not a disfellowshipping offense, since the wording in the scripture does not support this conclusion. After some strange looks, the objection was not even discussed...
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  conversation with wife

  by inbetween in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just a short info: my wife is not aware of me being here, and its not the time to tell her yet.. however, i time and again raise questions or even disagreement with some teachings of the wts, and she readily accepts them, but still believes, it is "the truth".

  but the other day, she talked about the anointed, the number going up, instead of down, and even saying, that maybe the number 144.000 is not literal after all, but maybe symbolic like everything else in revelation.. i said, i would not be surprised, if "new light" comes sooner or later.. she said, that the term "new light" seems overused,.

  i realised my chance, and put this thought deeper, example "generation" teaching, how it went from new, to newer, and back to older teachings etc... .

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  inbetween

  just a short info: my wife is not aware of me being here, and its not the time to tell her yet.

  however, I time and again raise questions or even disagreement with some teachings of the WTS, and she readily accepts them, but still believes, it is "the truth"

  But the other day, she talked about the anointed, the number going up, instead of down, and even saying, that maybe the number 144.000 is not literal after all, but maybe symbolic like everything else in Revelation.

  I said, I would not be surprised, if "new light" comes sooner or later.

  She said, that the term "new light" seems overused,

  I realised my chance, and put this thought deeper, example "generation" teaching, how it went from new, to newer, and back to older teachings etc..

  I was surprised at her opening up in this way...

  Later she said, that she feels bad, like an apostate, by questioning the GB..., but doesnt Jehoivah want us to do that ?

  I readily agreed, and did not push the matter further.

  I know, it is a little step forward, well actually it was quite a leap, but I know, that she will regret it, and step back once again....

  How should I continue ?