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  Does anyone here ever feel that they don't fit in

  by cantleave in

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  you no longer fit in with the jw's and aren't yet accepted by those outside either?.

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  inbetween

  exactly know what you mean, to a point at least.

  I observe some people at work or in neighborhood, end even though most of them are just decent normal people, sometimes their perceived purpose in life seems too shallow,

  let me explain: even when you realize the WTS is a big fraud, it gave life a "spiritual" dimension, shielding from a mere materialistic view of life, which is not completely satisfying.

  (however this may often just be from the perspective of a JW, when you barley get the chance to really get to know people outsied of the "truth")

  additionally when you live as an outsider for decades, it is hard to change in a short time to be fully integrated in society.

  on the other hand, when you are with witnesses, even if many are close friends, when they start talking cultish, it seems weird for those of the "conscious class", and you may feel as not fitting in either.

  Funny, i realise that I was never so full of this stuff, like prasing Jah for every positive thing that occurs in your life and blaming the devil for anything negative. Now it even strikes me more odd than before when I hear stuff like that.

  Yep, I completely understand this feeling....
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  Congregation Bible Study Book

  by dig692 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not sure if this question was addressed yet, but does anyone know what the next book is that will be studied at the congregation bible study?.

  i'm pretty sure we're close to the end of keep yourselves in god's love, or maybe it's finished already, so if anyone knows what the new study aid will be please let me know.. .

  thanks-dig.

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  inbetween

  its the "follow me" book, the new one about Jesus,

  in fact anything is better than the "gods rules" book we had the past year...
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  Life On Hold: The CO Visit Week

  by sacolton in

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  2. beliefs

  did anyone have to cancel a vacation trip because it was on co visit week?

  i still don't get why the co visit was as if god himself was in town.

  is it kinda like if the pope were to visit with catholics?.

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  inbetween

  Co-visits, omg....

  being a born-in, CO were often viewd as half-gods, elders getting nervous, because big boss is coming.

  worse, some ass-kissy publishers, circling the CO and his wife before and after meeting, I never was that type of person.

  CO-visits always ment more work, stress, and relief on sunday after the last talk....even as true beleiver, I always hated this times...

  even though some CO were decent guys, even funny and one of them almost became a good friend,, (but after 6 visits, its too short of a time to from a real friend-ship)

  the current one is also nice, one reason, why I wait before I resign. Will get a new one in fall though....
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  Which book ,studied at the Book Study, you Hated or loved more????

  by deep-blue-sea in

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  2. friends

  during my life as jw i have studied many, many books of the wt at the weekly book study.. here you will find some of the books considered during the years with their publishing date:.

  1955 new heavens, new hearth.

  1961 from lost paradise to..... 1962 let your will be done on earth.

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  inbetween

  hate:

  "gods rule" sorry, "Gods love"-book, its a list of do`s and do`nts, horrible for anybody in the conscious class...

  "isaiah" books, just plain boring, even a CO admitted that...

  liked:

  "creator" book, required some thinking at least, and some some good explanations

  "revelation" book, I know, some weird reasonings and applications, 7 trumprets for example, but at least not a dictating rule book

  "daniel" book, same as revelation, and I love history...
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  "People Don't Join Religions for the Doctrine"

  by leavingwt in

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  "people don't join religions for the doctrine.

  this and other interesting observations by randy watters, in a new post at free minds.

  a sample is below.. .

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  inbetween

  ak jeff, I agree completely, observe the same here, some just are happy with rules and if the society is uncertain, they endeavor to put certainty in themselves.

  they need somebody to tell them what to do. Mayn of them would really fail in life, and have failed before joining.

  For others (especially born in, or those caught off guard so to speak) it becomes a burden, they deal with either through living it only on the surface, or through depression, alcohol, other issues...
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  If we were alone together in the woods 100 miles from nowhere

  by John Doe in

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  and a tree fell on me, pinning me to the ground, and all you had was a dull pocket knife, would you perform a field amputation of a leg or arm to save my life?

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  inbetween

  only after contacting the local HLC, and you need to have your DPA handy anyway.

  How else should I know which fractions you allow to use ?
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  Why Aren't You At Least FAding?

  by shamus100 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it doesn't take much, just stop going.

  you don't even have to do it all at once; maybe do one meeting a week for a month, then one meeting a month for two months, then just stop going.. what's going to happen?.

  nothing.. getting a shepherding call... q: what's wrong brother twinkletoes?

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  inbetween

  MLE, I quite understand your position, I am in similar "shoes"

  fading as an elder is virtually impossible without facing more or less serious questioning.

  If its not health, it must be something else. In my case, we had an elder resign some years ago, apparatently due to secular work reasons.

  However, some time later, the real reason came up, he cheated on his wife.

  If I ever would resign, I´m sure suspicions in this regard may run high, because my health has been very good so far, and I´m not good at faking things.

  My goal is to resign sooner or later, but I need to find the appropriate timing. I work on my wife to get her used to the idea of switching congo, because this may be my only change.

  But right now, we have a small BOE, where each one is needed desperately. Fortunetely, my fellow elders are of the more reasonable, intelligent kind, company men yes, but as open possible. My little influence can help to take advantage of that, and I could at least once prevent an unnecessary JC, by avoiding the merely legal aproach on things.

  There is good that can be accomplished by those of the "conscious class", before they fade or drop out.

  Maybe thats something in the end, that helps deal with the responsibility before God, however we may define it.
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  This is probably petty, but .....Did you ever have a problem with losing your KM?

  by miseryloveselders in

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  "misery, do you have an extra kingdom ministry?

  " "misery, you didnt give me my kindom ministry for april, i know its only february, but you wouldnt happen to have it, would you?

  " "i could have sworn i gave you your km.

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  inbetween

  haha, yes, like Mad sweeney said, its a 50/50 issue.

  half the time I forgot to had it out, half the time the pub misplaced it...

  well lately it doenst matter, just take the one from last month, most of it is the same boring FS-advice anyway...
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  anybody ever asekd a JW, who is a med. doc ?

  by inbetween in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  about the societies teaching on fractions / components ?.

  there are indeed some physicians, who are jw, what do they think about this teaching, that certain fractions (red, white bloodcells, platelets and plasma) is forbidden, while other fractions are conscience matter ?.

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  inbetween

  very intersting, thanks for the replies:

  TD: yes, someone could reason: since minor fractions (gamma globulin) are crossing the platential barrier, all minor fractions are allowed. Then he could meditate about, what are minor fractions. Somebody else could with the same right reason, since part of blood are exchanged in a natural setting, the command ot abstain from blood, must only refer to nutrition (= eating), both reasonings have to be accepted, however, and here is my point: Its a personal decsion based on ones conscience !!!

  Where is the personal responsibility and conscience, when I have to take a list from the society to find out what my conscience permits ?

  Its soo ridiculous actually !!!

  However, how do most brothers view it ? They appreciate that the society gives them more freedom of choice

  So take away everything from somebody, then give them a little bit back, and they thank you forever...
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  POEM..."Forgive them Father, for they don't know what they do"...

  by tjlibre in

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  2. friends

  showing my poetic side...hope you enjoy.

  forgive them father, for they dont know what they do.

  when they use your holy name to lead us astray.... forgive them father, for they dont know what they do.

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  inbetween

  very nice, tjlibre, Christian spirirt coupled with "power of reason", very nice and accurate indeed !!