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  ART! What the hell is it?????

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  art!.

  what the hell is it?.

  i can't tell you what it is, but, i can tell you what i think it does.. art changes you.. it stops you cold in your tracks.. when you finally walk away from it you keep on thinking about it.. you can't shrug it off easily.. it's now a different world for you.. .

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  Swedish government declines to give JW financial support

  by InquiryMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  quite recently, watchtower in sweden applied for governmental financial support, as they are entitled to as a registered religious community.

  however, the government declined to accept the application, stating that the reason was that the jws do not adhere to democratic values and standards and do not support mainstream values.. the witnesses are upset, because they feel discriminated against.

  they state that the financial issue is not the real issue, but to be treated in a similar way as other religious communities.. they have appealed the decision and plan to send a report explaining the witnesses views in more detail.. the branch office chose the religious, pentecostal (assembly of god) newspaper "dagen" to make an interview.. here is the photo report of the article.. .

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  DOG FIGHTING

  by badboy in

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  2. friends

  today, i had some dog ifghting gang outside my flat.. what a evil.. .

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  Flouride and Chlorine in our drinking water is poisoning us to death?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  american dental association now reccomends due to health problems children under 12 not drink tap water with flouride!!!!

  even though since the 1950's we were told flouride only helps "young teeth.

  " it is chemical waste made from smoke staks while chlorine was a chemical weapon which was found also to clean water.

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  Pray -Jehovah will save you...or let you die depending on "his will." Please Explain?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  witness yearbooks are full of experiences where jehovah saved a poor witness who prayed for help...and the soldiers walked passed and did not see them etc, etc.

  however, other brothers prayed and still got executed by gillotine so...why does gods will allow such things?

  isn't this just random chance put down as god's will?

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  If Shunning Didn't Exist, Would JW's Exist In Their Current Form?

  by AllTimeJeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in my opinion, this is the crux of the matter where ex jw's are concerned.. so many religions have disagreements with their members.

  but you can disagree, research, question, and leave if that is your wish.

  you may receive some sanction depending on the religion, but no shunning is required in the major faith's and religions of christendom.

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  Secrets of the WatchTower--It's origins and It's Agenda

  by CrimsonBleu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  secrets of the watchtower is a website which tells the incredible history of wts and it's founders, connecting dots like no othe resource.. i happened upon this site, but i have not had time to fully cover it yet.

  has anyone else seen this site and is it as factaul as t appears to be?

  if so, every one of us needs to read it.

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  Waking Up to a Day of Horror and Shock

  by cameo-d in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on sat., august 12, while leaders attended a garden party, ulbricht signed the order to close the border and erect a wall.. at midnight the construction began.. as the sun rose on august 13, 1961, construction was well underway and germany was totally divided by barricades within the few hours of one day!.

  in the wee hours, police and military units had begun to close the border.

  they tore up the streets and used the paving stones to create blockades.

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  Psychologists repudiate gay-to-straight therapy

  by Rabbit in

  1. social
  2. current

  i'm guessing the wts and some others won't be capable of understanding this article ?

  damn the torpedoes people -- full speed ahead !!.

  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090806/ap_on_re_us/us_psychologists_gays/print.

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  Just talked to Witnesses at my door for Hour about Watchtower Child Abuse

  by flipper in

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  2. child-abuse

  it happened again like in july when i talked to an elder and his wife about child abuse, but this time i got a hold of rank and file members who fortunately i was able to play like a fiddle as they had no idea what they were up against here.

  so brother middle age ex-hippie convert ( as he told me later ) and sister middle age hair in a bun offered me the awake on death or our view of death.

  i graciously accepted gaining their trust saying yes, i had close loved ones who had died over the years but didn't know if i believed in a resurrection or hereafter.

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