Posts by fluke

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We Former JW's Are Not Good At....

by AllTimeJeff in

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just based on what i have seen..... self esteem.

trying to get back to college.

meeting good people to partner up with for life.

fluke

Just bumping this thread....

Still recovering from trust issues, here...

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one thing i do find odd is that the federal reserve act came to fruition that year.. "the entire system was to be overseen by an appointed federal reserve board, based in washington, d.c. by 1914 a full complement of twelve federal reserve banks had been established...".

also odd, is the way the federal reserve act came about.

it was underhanded.

fluke

I love the mayan calander... :)

It is a map across time to show the evolutionary changes and developments of humans, in our social and cultural collectiveness... :)

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Wife love-bombed...HELP ME!

by Mad Sweeney in

i thought the fade was speeding up and there was light on the horizon for me and my family.

then yesterday my wife gets love-bombed and is ready to go back to the dubs.

i'm angry, cynical, depressed, disillusioned, you name it.. i don't know what to do for her.

fluke

All things will pan out, enthusiasm wanes in time... The initial part is the best and in time you will see that she will be brought around... On her own though...

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Fighting the Cult of the Watchtower Good or Bad? Does it Give Your Life Some Meaning?

by frankiespeakin in

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ever since i left this mind control cult i have continued to offer resistance in what ever ways i thought good at the time.. but i'm faced with the question: is it good or bad idea?

or how far should i go and to what lengths should i go in my efforts to fight this cult?.

i think being a jw for 29 years has defined a large chunk of my life and to just try to forget about it may be a big mistake.

fluke

Most people will only keep holding fast to what they think is real, especially if you try to rench them from their perch...

It is where they feel safe, they are with 7 million others, and they like it that way...

Personally I would talk to those that will listen and then present some little facts for others to think on... I regard witnesses with respect and pity, some are power hungry others are genuine... Our job is to nurture those that come out or need a helping hand... In so doing, try to think what we would have done in our hight of Dubbyness... I sure would never listen to those who saught to destroy my blessed faith...

But i am glad to have stumbled into your site... :)

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Who or what was Jesus?

by highdose in

given the up coming season i thought this would be a good disscussion.. do you belive that jesus was real?

the son of god?.

a religous cruesader of his day?.

fluke

ok, Jesus is several things...

One - the timely beginning of the Piscese Aoen... Where the rising of the sun is in the Piscese constalation... Before that was Tauras... The next one in line is from Mark 14:13 Man carrng a pitcher of water... Aquarious... :D

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when is the memorial this year? and will you be going?

by highdose in

i won't be going if i can help it, but id like a heads up about it, just to be forewarned.

fluke

I'll think about going...

Shall be interesting how they respond to my lovely long ponytail... :)

Oh, I could go with a cloak and my wonderful deer antler walking stick... Then, half way through... Start chanting...

Mwooohahahahahahaha...

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The WT LIE re "Sign" of the "Generation"

by AGuest in

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to the household of god, israel, and all those who go with... may you have peace!.

the following excerpt was posted from paragraph 14 of the wtbts article, "the holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose":.

14 what does this explanation mean to us?

fluke

"many men will come and say... LOOK!!! There is the christ!... But do not belive them..."

I always wondered of the Org was doing this themselves... You know not only did we get instructions how NOT to go about things, we also got one really good way to get on in our loves... "that all people will know you, that you are my people... If you have love amoung yourselves"...

So may that be!!!

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Oh Rutherford! Oh Rutherford! You wicked rascal, you!

by Terry in

first, pastor russell had joined adventist bible students in their enthusiam for end times chronologies.. next, russell teamed up with leading adventist thinkers like george storrs and barbour to publish these chronologies and apologies.. finally, russell used his private wealth to cut and paste ideas from all over the religious map into his own peculiar name-brand version of adventism which included pyramidology.. local congregations kept autonomy.

russell would have it no other way.

judge rutherford crept in to wrest control of the watchtower for himself and begin a new agenda which would transform local congregations of bible students into a cult of mind-controlled salesmen serving a religion of business organization.. this is what happened.. rutherford's key strategy succeeded in wresting a personality cult (pastor russell) away from "creature worship" and transforming it into a business concern or organization which could claim and demand loyalty in terms of statistical productivity (preaching and book sales.).

fluke

Thanks for that...

Apreciated

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How long before you stopped believing armageddon was on your doorstep?

by bubba flavel in

i was born into "the truth" back in 1964. i made the big mistake of getting baptised when i was about 14 or so, purely to please my father as i saw how proud he was when my brothers were baptised....didn't work.. we moved to a new congregation when i was about 8, he introduced all my brothers to the congregation by name, a short bio of thier endearing qualities and how proud he was of them, when he introduced me it was "and this is our black sheep of the family, steve".. i remember living in fear at the fast approaching 1975....actually, living in terror is probably a more apt desciption.

all of you will full well know how it was instilled into us at every meeting and assembly how we are living in the last days.. as a 15 year old, a brother dobbed me in for kissing a worldly girl at school.

went through the marked process, judicial committy, disfellowshipped and the shunning which continues to this day by what's left of my family.

fluke

I too was a 'Born-in' but much later at 1982...

I never went through the 75 ordeal and never had that let down...

My earliest memories are of the Yellow book (no the yellow pages, the My Book Of Bible Stories) I even had the stories on tape too, which my mum made me listen too whilst i was a sleep...

For 24 years I ate slept and lived JW... To me it was real, I had the life and had to share it, I had witnessed miracles and really tried to feel the love... But that was it, I had no love... Not really... Not for their god, not for the religion... It was for people, others...

Both in and out of JWs... And thats all I've ever wanted to do, it used to sadden me when i was the only young person doing the gardens... Making the grounds nice... Helping the elderly with theirs gardens... Making sure people were looked after...

But being scared of Armeggedon???

I lie awake at night often, sweating, thinking... "nashing of their teeth"... "worse than a man of faith"..."I do not know you"...

I am gripped still..."Bring a boy up on a certain path in his youth, and in his manhood... He will not turn away from it"

This seems to be the case... I am split... Torn...

I'm glad that it may drift...

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What Cong you from???

by fluke in

hey guys.... .

just wondering what kh you guys attended and or congregation you are from?.

me, i'm from hayes cong london and golden ash northants... spent time in others too but mostly those... oh, also a short spat in kempston cong bedford... all in england... :).

fluke

so great to read all that...

Pm me if you would like to talk more... :)

cheers for all your imput...