Look forward to reading more.
Etna
food was passed from one side and if you were #10 you may not get too much to eat!
when i finally did, she was not at all interested.
but i was lucky it didnt work out, for she never would have left the watchtower.
Look forward to reading more.
Etna
the associated press is sending out on the news wire the information about the death of ray franz.
this story will be picked up across the world by all major newpapers, tv and radio.. fyi, there will be a tribute to raymond franz, saturday, june 12th, at 7 p.m. est on the phone conferencing dialogue program.
call.
Thanks for that. Do you know if it will be covered in Australia? I hope so, if anyone knows, please let me know.
Thanks Etna
i just received word that ray franz passed away today at 1:37 pm eastern daylight time.
the cause of death is stated as head trauma, likely due to falling to the ground, and a stroke could have also been part of the cause or a result of the fall.
he died at emory university hospital in atlanta about 17 minutes after being taken off life support.
Thank you Jim. Very sad from over here in Australia.
Etna
as jws, we would have seen the adolation the governing body received.
even as far away as australia, we thought and spoke of them with reverence.
after all, they were figuratively at gods right hand, with the prospect of one day being in heaven with him.
So well said Broken Promises. I too am from Australia and feel exactly as you do.
Etna
many of us are aware of the stroke that raymond franz had yesterday,.
that he is on life support and it doesn't look like he is going to pull through.. someone on another thread mentioned if he didn't survive how many.
was planning on attending his funeral.. to me this deserves its own thread.. .
ATJ has said it perfectly. If I wasn't in Australia, I'd be over there offering support and making sure to attend whatever there was to attend of this great man(not our leader, but a good man). It makes me sad not to have met him. At least I had the pleasure to correspond with him. A very humble, christian man.
Etna
just setting the record straight.
there is another thread that notes a claim on wiki that said that ray has died.. he had a stroke yesterday, and is in the hospital.
he is still alive.
Reading sooner7nc post only goes to show what sort of man Ray is, always thinking of others. I'll be thinking of him and Cynthia from Australia, wishing them both all the best and my love.
Etna
when i left the jw's in 95', talk of the king of the north and peace & security was still big close to the end items.
haven't seen them mentioned much since i've been coming here.
what's the latest from the wts on these 2 subjects?.
They are finished with that scare tactic and even stop talking about how horrible the UN is as part of the wild beast or in affiliation with the harlot or whatever, since they where involved with the UN. They have even stop publishing about all the peodephiles in the clergy as they don't want to be publicly exposed. They are trying to focus on "the generation" and scare all the ones in there now/
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Etna
it's been a while since i've posted because i've been so busy looking for a full-time job so that i could leave my husband.
well, i've finally got one today.
actually, it's the same job i've had for about a year but someone else just put in their notice to quit so my manager finally gave me full-time status.
Hope it all goes well for you. I would just not tell any jws anything about you pesonally, so that they can't question you. Good luck.
Etna
i considered myself immune to ex jw stuff.
no amount of old watchtowers or anything would change me.
it was seeing treatment of others by elders and the bible itself, which woke me.
This is a great thread. For me it was, that I couldn't understand how the WT could possibly write things like the "child abuse" in all other religions and they themselves were as guilty as all of them. It was all the hypocricy from the top to alot of the publishers.
Etna
it has taken me a long time, but i have finally put together an article outlining how i used the law to force bethel to send me my personal files.
it is a very long article full of scans, so i have linked to it at http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/personal-files-privacy-act-1988.php.
in brief, in 2006 i requested that bethel send me my files on the basis that the australian privacy act 1988 entitles people to receive a copy of any information a corporation holds about them.
Wow. I can't beleive these elders or whatever they are. I've left you a message and my phone number. Hope we can catch up.
Etna