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  Can You Answer These 16 Bible Questions Honestly?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what does the bible really teach?

  using only the bible, can you prove - 1. who the 'other sheep' are?

  2. the context of john 10:16?

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  eggnog,

  Again you avoided the question of using the BIBLE, how did Jesus come to power in 1914??????

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  Can You Answer These 16 Bible Questions Honestly?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what does the bible really teach?

  using only the bible, can you prove - 1. who the 'other sheep' are?

  2. the context of john 10:16?

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  eggnog

  Again, as you just quoted Matt 28:18. He couldn't have any more authority, that was given him on his ressurection. YOU show me from the BIBLE and not the WATCHTOWER, how he came to be king in 1914????

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  Can You Answer These 16 Bible Questions Honestly?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what does the bible really teach?

  using only the bible, can you prove - 1. who the 'other sheep' are?

  2. the context of john 10:16?

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  Eggnog,

  Again you don't read the bible, just the watchtower. The bible says that Jesus became KING when he returned to HEAVEN.

  Etna
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  How Many Years have your JW Relatives Shunned You ?

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i felt with newer members coming on and other jw fence sitters lurking it might be a good thing to explain what many of us have had to go through in regards to being shunned, cut off, ostracized from our jw families in an unjust way .

  whether we are dfed or inactive - many of us have shared this same fate and ill treatment.

  for many of us- it makes us stronger, more firmly entrenched that the decision we made to exit the jehovah's witness organization was the correct decision as no organization that claims to be " christian " would ever commit such horrid atrocities or justify it !

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  CULT CULT CULT CULT CULT CULT CULT

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  Told the JW sister to stop going on about JW stuff!

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the past 7 months since being disfellowshipped have been filled with nothing but happiness for me, however one sister said she wasnt going to give up on me.

  how nice.

  we have remaiend friends and we spend some time together every month doing work which is her excuse.

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  Hey timothy, I agree with wha happened, honesty is best. I havent being disfellowshiped but havnt gone for 4 years and contacted a very close(like a brother to me) friend the other day, when I found out he hasnt been healthy at all. And can you beleive he put it back on me that its my fault we havnt been in contact. I was ringing him and seeing him constantly after I stopped going but he wasnt returning the courteousy, so I had enough and got on with my life, which is very good. And they have the hide to say its our fault. I will contact him again and I'll talk to him and this time I won't sugar coat anything. I am going to be honest. I have been so honest since leaving the org and will always be true to myself.

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  Will Embracing the Internet lead to Increased Growth for the Watchtower?

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  more important than the reduction in the size of the new magazine is that the watchtower will be actively promoting its website and encouraging people use it to download magazines.

  my concern is that this has the potential to lead to an increase in growth for the watchtower.. the door-to-door preaching work has been one of the most inefficient means imaginable to gain converts, and done little more than tie up the time of active jws.

  now, by directing people to the internet, witnesses can spread their message at an alarming rate for little cost.. do you feel that this has the potential to lead to a surge in growth of jehovah's witnesses?

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  I agree with scenicviewer. I think people, even jws will start to find out their history and maybe get a shock. You site (Jw facts) is excellent because it quotes from the watchtower and gives the referrences so that it can be checked.

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  Memorial - Why do i keep going?

  by maisha in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  every year i attend, missing only 5 in 50 years.. i do not attend meetings nor active in anyway, my family shun me,(all devote believers) but i do feel drawn to attend each year.

  i am out for sure, but i no longer have faith, or a belief in any religous body as being approved by god.. i am so screwed up now i not sure if i believe in a creator!, let alone who or what that may be.. i was born into the truth, married into the truth and my ex is devote.. i could never return to the cult now seeing it for what it is.. i served, donated, slaved for years happy to do so as has all my family.. i went out of my way to get df, sort of a wanting to die act, of rejecting the society.. i used to sit in a movie in my youth and think, wow i am so lucky, all these people are going to die and i will live forever.. even just typing this gives release to my emotions,, lol,,, yea i have many emotions,,, many regrets, basically the organisation i followed and the instructions destroyed my life in every possible way.. the power plays that i witnessed within are what first woke me up,,,at first i let it go, forgiving those involved as brothers do.

  but again and again power and position is and was the thing to have, you got the power you got everything.

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  @eggnog

  Jesus was entrhoned as King when he was resurrected. You might want to read the bible instead of the wacthtower.

  Etna
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  Memorial - Why do i keep going?

  by maisha in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  every year i attend, missing only 5 in 50 years.. i do not attend meetings nor active in anyway, my family shun me,(all devote believers) but i do feel drawn to attend each year.

  i am out for sure, but i no longer have faith, or a belief in any religous body as being approved by god.. i am so screwed up now i not sure if i believe in a creator!, let alone who or what that may be.. i was born into the truth, married into the truth and my ex is devote.. i could never return to the cult now seeing it for what it is.. i served, donated, slaved for years happy to do so as has all my family.. i went out of my way to get df, sort of a wanting to die act, of rejecting the society.. i used to sit in a movie in my youth and think, wow i am so lucky, all these people are going to die and i will live forever.. even just typing this gives release to my emotions,, lol,,, yea i have many emotions,,, many regrets, basically the organisation i followed and the instructions destroyed my life in every possible way.. the power plays that i witnessed within are what first woke me up,,,at first i let it go, forgiving those involved as brothers do.

  but again and again power and position is and was the thing to have, you got the power you got everything.

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  djeggnog, Why do you go to the memorial. Didn't Jesus say to keep doing this until I return. He "returned in 1914". So why do they still do this. Have christedom got it right or does Jesus come many times?

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  Since exiting the Witnesses have you Become More " Spiritual " ? - Not ........

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ..... necessarily more religious, but more spiritual in a non-religious way ?

  although being religious is one of the definitions os " spiritual " it encompasses much more in the webster's new world dictionary , under the word spiritual it's definition is : " 1. of the spirit or the soul as distinguished from the body or material matters 2. of, from, or concerned with the intellect ; intellectual 3. of or consisting of spirit ; not corporeal 4. characterized by the ascendancy of the spirit ; showing much refinement of thought and feeling 5. of religion or the church ; sacred, devotional, or ecclesiastical ; not lay or temporal 6. spiritualistic or supernatural .

  quite a variety of definitions !

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  Its funny you ask that, my wife is very spiritual, but she goes occasionally to the meetings to keep her kids happy. But she has told me her friend is very spiritual, she teaches yoga. I have found that since fading and reading alot of literature and checking it against the Bible, it opens my eyes not thinking the watchtower way. I actually enjoy reading the bible now and sometimes read it with my mouth open at how much like the pharisees the watch tower is.

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  How to get your family out of the JW world.

  by Giordano in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on another thread a new poster the truth is mine talked about needing to stay undercover so that he doesn't lose control of his family to all of his well meaning theocratic relatives.. i remember reading a number of success stories about how some on this forum managed to get out with their families intact.

  in particular i was looking for mad sweeney's account of his family bible study night and others who were able to find a way to connect to their loved ones.. i imagine there are a number of lurkers/posters who would like to know how they accomplished that..

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  great story giordano, My wife dosen't beleive a thing they say too, but 2 of her kids(we were married to other people before) are in and she makes an appearance occassionally. I hate it. She can't be herself.

  Etna