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  Say what you will, but I like this article.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.anointedjw.org/beware_apostates.html .

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  That is actually pretty good. I think I like these guys. Why can't they be on the bloody Governing Body?

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  Commitee and disfellowshipment

  by Freeof1914 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have only posted on here several times, but i am constantly reading what others post.

  i guess i am more of a reader than author.

  that being said i am happy to announce i am no longer one of the jehovah's witnesses.

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  Funny. My committee showed me something similar--the elders barely seemed to care at all about fornication but spent close to 5 hours questioning me about my doubts. My sin was hidden for what, maybe six months, at most? And my wife, who was equally guilty, was commenting at meetings a month later, no big deal.

  But the elder on my committee said to me, "We're not here to prove the truth to you." Something like that. So apparently, elders actually don't feel any sort of responsibility to provide proof for the doctrine. They don't want to debate with you--and probably they've been instructed to avoid that if possible, for obvious reasons. They only want to know if you believe it, which is your only option. If you don't, that's it.

  I see they asked you the 'loyalty question'. I think it's only fair to ask them, what exactly does true Christianity involve? If one is asking a comprehensive question of the existence of one's Christian faith, is this the right question to ask? The Bible says that the antichrist is one who denies the Father and the Son. So is it antichrist, or antiorganization that 1 John talks about? I mean, they base shunning on this very same concept, based on 2 John, right? Basically, they're asking you to assign a meaning to apostasy that doesn't exist in scripture, that goes beyond what is written. So looking at it that way, there is no reason for a Christian to answer that question, and even less reason for a fellow Christian to be asking it.

  But in your dedication (post-1985, at least), you made a dedication to an organization. And that, of course, is the reason for the question.

  Hmm. It raises the question of what was going on in your life that brought you to this point? None of my business, though. Thanks for sharing.

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  New GB pic 2013?

  by Joliette in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw a new gb pic on a youtube channel i tried doing a google search for 2013 pics but nothing came up.

  man, those guys got old fast!

  they all look much younger in 2009..

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  What I find odd, now that I think of it, is that there's only one Bible and eight men. I'm pretty sure it'd be hard to share a Bible with eight people. Nit-picking, but I think it might've been more encouraging if they each held their Bibles, as if to demonstrate how closely they stick to the scriptures.

  Oh.

  With that in mind, one Bible is enough.

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  GB sidles out of 1919 and puts 1914 in the bin. (WT study.)!!

  by hamsterbait in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anybody noticed in many recent watchtowers that christ is now said to have "turned his attention to the earth in 1914.".

  unlike the 60's they do not say christ "came" in 1914. the "proclaimers book " p137 says the bible students came to discern that "christ did not return, (even invisibly), in 1914.".

  the way is now paved.

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  BIG noolite on 1914 is coming, and it depends on this old 1914 teaching.

  I've been skeptical about them ever fiddling with 1914 or discarding it. Certainly their moving start of the FDS inspection time to 1914 seems to support the date even further. But the more I think of it, the more I realize that with each of the significant changes in recent years, there has probably been an article beforehand that dropped a subtle hint in advance and prepared the minds of the JW audience to accept the change in full.

  But what could they possibly say further about 1914 at this point? Clearly what they've done with the July 15th, 2013 WT shifts a date backwards in time, but there's really not much more. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

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  Thought Control in New Light on FDS Article

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the july, 2013 watchtower article giving their "new light" on the fds begins as follows:.

  'brothers, i cannot begin to count the times you have put into my hands articles that contained just what i needed when i needed it most.

  ' that is how one sister expressed her appreciation in a letter to the brothers who work at our world headquarters.

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  But they could also write articles based on reports from elders and circuit overseers and the like, so again, given that even the most intimate, personal details of a JW's life can be known by elders, who will then put them in reports and send them to the Society, there are entirely human reasons why the articles seem to fit someone's personal circumstances.

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  What's the incentive for becoming a JW now? July 15th 2013 Watchtower

  by dazed but not confused in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  Mrs. Dazed said, "Maybe I will come back when the UN attacks Christendom" Knowing that this will probably never happen.

  If it does, I owe you a Coke.
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  JW teen must have transfusion: Judge rules

  by Tiktaalik in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://www.smh.com.au/national/teen-witness-must-have-a-transfusion-rules-judge-20130417-2i0lc.html.

  summary:.

  17 year old jw has been ordered by the court to undergo a transfusion if his doctors deem it necessary.

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  80% chance of more blood on WT's hands, then. I hope he survives regardless. If he ever wakes up and fully grasps what he was about to die for, it would be really heartbreaking for him.

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  Do you follow your " spirit directed " conscience and bible principles?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  vincent toole, solicitor for the jehovah's witnesses, said the fact that the church got working with children checks had nothing to do with steven unthank, whom he suggested was behind the court case.

  ''we find it disappointing that he continues to misrepresent our organisation.''........

  ....''jehovah's witnesses abhor child abuse, and place the protection of children at the highest level,'' he said.. .

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  The laws of the land really only matter to the Society so far as it becomes a matter of legal liability. 'Bible principles' really only means 'Watchtower law'. And since WT already had its own rules for the elders about this, they're going to stop there and not question whether it's the right thing to call the police in cases of molestation.

  I mean, we're talking about the same people who were teaching well into the 20th century that rape is fornication. How much can you really expect from them?

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  Thought Control in New Light on FDS Article

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the july, 2013 watchtower article giving their "new light" on the fds begins as follows:.

  'brothers, i cannot begin to count the times you have put into my hands articles that contained just what i needed when i needed it most.

  ' that is how one sister expressed her appreciation in a letter to the brothers who work at our world headquarters.

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  The GB must have thought this new light might be controversial, else why would they have felt the need to start out by telling JWs how appreciative they should be?

  Well, yeah. It was either going to be that or a flat-out appeal to authority. In this case, they kinda went with both--thought control and an appeal to authority all in the first couple of paragraphs.

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  Thought Control in New Light on FDS Article

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the july, 2013 watchtower article giving their "new light" on the fds begins as follows:.

  'brothers, i cannot begin to count the times you have put into my hands articles that contained just what i needed when i needed it most.

  ' that is how one sister expressed her appreciation in a letter to the brothers who work at our world headquarters.

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  That is how one sister expressed her appreciation in a letter to the brothers who work at our world headquarters.

  There's a reason this shouldn't surprise us. The articles they write are clearly, at least in part, based upon letters they receive from JWs. The articles they write are not coincidence, as likely they're a response to what seems to be a pressing need on the part of those who write in. There's nothing supernatural about that, since they probably get enough letters about one subject, or one particularly noteworthy letter about one subject, and then write an article based on that.

  Think of how many times they quote from letters that were written. While we don't know if the quotes are legitimate, we do know that people do write to WT headquarters. That said, to suggest that the articles are proof that Jesus is feeding us is to make something ordinary--like writers responding to letters they receive from a number of people--seem extraordinary--as if the Governing Body is reading our minds or Jesus is reading our minds and then telling them what articles to write.

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