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  w14 12/15-E Study Edition

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  click "premium download".

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  pdf: http://bayfiles.net/file/1kv2k/uaqn2y/w_e20141215.pdf.

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  You all forget that this is obvious to us because we are awaken,

  Forget? Not at all. But sometimes it's good to say it again, especially for those who might be lurking right now and thinking the same things.

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  w14 12/15-E Study Edition

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  click "premium download".

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  pdf: http://bayfiles.net/file/1kv2k/uaqn2y/w_e20141215.pdf.

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  The explanation of the 'prodigal son' illustration stands out to me. They mention that returning to the organization--by their own words--can be "embarrassing". Well, who made it embarrassing? You were the ones who designed the system to shame people. The father of the prodigal son doesn't put shame on his son, he welcomes him back with open arms and throws a party! No embarrassment there. It's the self-righteous other son who wants to shame the prodigal. There's a giant mental blank where they skip over how vastly different this illustration is from how the organization operates.

  Also, the kid who stayed out late playing pool and violent computer games is pretty hilarious. Seriously? That's the worst you could come up with? Is their goal to protect kids from playing pool and Call of Duty? I'm sure that's what Jesus had in mind when he appointed the 'faithful slave'. He must be relieved.

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  I don't like some of the comments recently on skin color...

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

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  2. friends

  black perosn beats up black girl for being too white or white people rapes another witness.. .

  who f**king cares you morons.!.

  let me explains.

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  We've got to learn to see people as individuals and not just as part of a group. Focus on what they do and who they really are, and not just what they look like. That's the way I see it.

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  BOE Letter: New Adjustments

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  **this was predicted from some members here**.

  to all congregations .

  re: adjustments in organizational terminology and assembly arrangements .

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  I guess I need to be on here more often. I found out about this first from my wife, like last weekend! Clearly, I'm not keeping up with Jehovah's celestial chariot...

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  Conversation with 4 elders: A study in smear tactics.

  by problemaddict in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  bucket shop bill has a thread in which they are "counseled" for something, that ends up not even being true.

  instead of the elder who made the accusation apologizing to them, they are made to feel like they should appreciate his overexuberence.. it struck me that this is a common tactic.

  here is a story of my own.

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  Now that is a classic moment. Thank you for sharing this. Everybody needs to read this thread.

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  How would you summarize the basic message of the Watchtower versus the Bible?

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for me personally:.

  watchtower - don't sin, don't question, don't think, don't reason, don't leave, or god will kill you in hell the big a.. bible - all dysfunction aka the "bad news" has been legally defeated by the "good news".. (i believe we are therefore free to begin naturally and progressively transitioning from a primitive type-0 civilisation if and when we choose to and when consensus reaches critical mass.

  we will become a more advanced type-1 civilisation in the next 100 years according to michio kaku in "physics of the future".).

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  Watchtower--Follow the ones Jesus appointed in 1919, we're the only ones who preach and correctly understand the Bible, obey or die

  Bible--Follow Jesus, holy spirit helps you understand the Bible, anyone who preaches another gospel (like one involving Jesus returning in 1914) is accursed, obey or die

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  That's it......

  by whathehadas in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this might be my last post.

  i've had quite a few things on my mind over the past few years, mainly my belief in god.

  i've tried to move on from the jw past but that's really being foolish.

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  I've struggled with the concept of finding a new 'normal' myself, bro. It took a lot of reading, a LOT of reading, to really get me to find a little more peace and perspective on my situation. It was therapy that probably got my mind thinking enough about myself that I could ask the questions I needed, but most of that was before I woke up, believe it or not. After, a lot of that was good friends I could trust. People who'd suffered and knew what it was to be part of this cult and what it does to you. Fact is, even though I'm not on here as much, these guys, you guys, are as close as I've gotten to having a new set of family and friends to fill the void.

  Maybe on some level, that's a shame. I wouldn't wish that on you, because there's a lot you probably have to offer to others who haven't had this kind of experience. I think a big part of finding normalcy is restoring your own self-image. Being able to look in the mirror and see someone more than just an ex-cult member or the pain or damage that caused. The more you question everything and look for answers, the easier it'll become to separate yourself from the cult and its mindset. I'd recommend some time with philosophy and science and even theological studies of Christianity if that floats your boat. Any big question you might have--it could be good to find a new set of answers, you know?

  It is tough. I, too, felt the pain with the news about Robin Williams. I can understand wanting to call it quits, because I've been in that place before. I get mad at myself for my mistakes and for things I'd still like to do differently in life as it is now. But it takes patience to find your way after something so earth-shattering happens. But you can find your way.

  As time passes, you'll get more in touch with your authentic self and be able to figure out what it is you want to do and be from where you are now. Don't compare yourself to people who have never been in a cult--or even people who have been in a cult. You're an individual and it's not a race. You have to fill your life with something other than 'I was in a cult'. That'll look you in the face each day most likely. I just saw a pair of guys wearing JW.org badges this morning. It won't go away, but it will get better. It may ebb and flow from time to time as something triggers the old pain, but you can manage that with time and experience.

  I wish there were easy answers I could give, but I'm not really the guy I'd point to as an example of how to get out of a cult successfully. I'm sure there are better folks here who have already said things you'll find more useful. I'm not in your neck of the woods, but I wouldn't mind it if you wrote me or what have you. I'm no jamiebowers, but...maybe I can be of some help.

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  pros and cons of anti depessants?

  by Crazyguy in

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  obviously i'm having ex cult issues, family still in and a wife that's all kokoo for cocopuffs as well as our marriage isn't good.

  i would like to leave her, she has never been the kind of wife i wanted.

  anyway the stress is getting to be to much, thinking about things all the time and its effecting my work as well as otherthings.

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  Well, I can only speak on my own experience. I was on Zoloft for maybe less than a year. The first thing you notice is this sense that certain parts of your brain have been turned down. You feel a bit detached from everything. A little like a dream state of sorts.

  The major side effect for me was that I had to make sure I was at home, ready to go to bed, because as soon as I took them, I was out cold for the rest of the night. And don't dare wake up until the morning either--it felt like an electrical storm was frying my brain when I did that once. Definitely do not take that stuff if you're going to be doing any driving or anything else that requires you to be alert after you take it.

  The other thing is that they do make you dehydrated, so it's best to drink a lot of water.

  But that's just my experience with Zoloft. I eventually just quit them cold turkey because I needed to stay alert on the road late at night, plus I couldn't afford to pay for them anymore. My head was buzzing like crazy a couple of days later, but I got through it with no trouble beyond that and never became dependent on them.

  I'd say, divorce is nothing a good comic book and a trip to the movies can't cure. But then, I've never been divorced, so I wouldn't know.

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  how to survive a three day assembly?

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi i have to go to one of these soon.

  i find it difficult enough to sit through a meeting knowing what i now know.

  how to survive a whole three days???!!!

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  From my own experience, last year when I went I just brought my iPod. I put on big blue Skullcandy headphones and the convention program became the irritating background to a seemingly endless collection of music. I brought my spiral notebook to write down whatever I was thinking, and that was that. If you need to keep up appearances, the smaller the iPod and earphones, the better, so as not to make it appear that you're listening to music and not the program itself.

  Or you could just not go. Combine 3 parts Pepsi with 1 part milk, plus chunks of bread or something, and you have some fake vomit you can pour into the toilet as proof that you're sick. Might want to add something with a bad smell to create a convincing vomit odor, and you're all set!

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  More JW bragging about the Landover, MD. convention. Please have barf bag at the ready before reading

  by AndDontCallMeShirley in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the following e-mail is circulating among jws about the international convention at fedex stadium in landover, md.

  note the all-too-familiar jw claims: everything they do (including the simple act of parking cars) is proof of jehovah'stm blessing, and everything wt did at the convention was the fastest, greatest, best ever.

  oh, and the never-fails-to-get-mentioned alleged 'persecution'/resistance from some unnamed authority who tried to get in watchtower's way and hamper the effort...but jws prevailed anyway (as always):.

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  reports are that it bought in $17,000,000 in revenue to the local area. I dont know the source of the reports though. Lol

  Gee, washington.org--DC's tourism site, was expecting $41 million to be brought into the area. Ah, well...

  Anyway, so people really all just took the Beltway, even people who know the area well enough to take Landover Road? That was just plain stupid. They could have at least suggested different routes to different congregations so they're not all trying to take the same Beltway exit.

  Maybe I should relate the experience related to me by a sister, as a demonstration of Jehovah's loving care. Apparently, her son, a 2-year-old, was left with one of her friends while she went to visit her mom elsewhere in the stadium, and he just wandered off. When she got back to her seat, her son was gone! She frantically informed an attendant, and the well-organized brothers quickly located her son and returned him only to her, and no one else. We can only imagine what would have happened had this small child wandered off at a worldly sporting event! Thankfully, he was returned unharmed, and once again, Jehovah's loving concern even for the little ones was shown. [applause]

  But it's always interesting to see how JWs always think that everything they do is done better than the outside world does the same thing. It's largely because they don't bother to do any kind of actual comparison, nor would they need to, since an appeal to superiority/authority is enough to convince the target audience anyway.

  --sd-7