Posts by sd-7

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July WT Study magazine - How can any intelligent person believe these things??

by Faithful Witness in

i haven't been paying attention, i admit... but thought i would go and look at their latest magazine, and see what my parents are spending their precious energy on this month.

my mom retired in may, and we have seen her just once since then.

our invitations have been rejected, due to meetings, conventions, service work requirements, etc.

sd-7

"Thus, being hated for bearing Jehovah's name is the same as 'being reproached for the name of [Jesus] Christ,' who said to his opposers: 'I have come in the name of my Father, but you do not receive me.' (John 5:43)"

This, from the people who removed any mention of Jesus Christ from the cover of their flagship magazine, The Watchtower. What was wrong with being a "Herald of Christ's Presence"?

I couldn't tell you how many people I encountered over the years who didn't think JWs even believed in Jesus. More people probably know they don't celebrate birthdays than could actually explain their 'good news' message. So...being hated for bearing Jehovah's name is not the same, not the same at all.

--sd-7

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Blown away-- where to go from here

by All for show in

jw
friends

i stumbled upon this website a few weeks ago due to the jw.org ridiculousness, since then i haven't been able to pull myself away.

the thoughts, feelings, and concerns i have had the past few years aren't just mine.

it's global.

sd-7

Welcome. Another awakening. It sounds like you have already started down the right path. I wonder what advice I could possibly offer here.

Well, since you're married, I would say, until you are absolutely sure of how your mate feels, you'd best keep your doubts to yourself. My wife turned me in to the elders for having doubts, and it was a very difficult time. I told the story on here a few years ago, along with what I could write down from my committee. Check out my 'Borg Court' threads for that. For now, be careful about who you trust. That's the first bit of advice.

The second bit of advice is to continue reading as many different books as possible to broaden your perspective on all this. That'll be a real lifeline in helping you in the transition process. It has definitely kept me sane and brought me a lot more peace than I otherwise would have had.

The other thing is, this is going to be very stressful, especially if you have to maintain appearances for a time. So you need to take good care of yourself. And...find someone who understands how you feel and talk to them. There are good people here who I'm sure will be of great help to you.

It won't be easy, but you can make it. I hope you and your family will be able to find your way to lasting freedom in due time.

--sd-7

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JW.ORG signs on Assembly Hall

by Nosferatu in

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friends

what the hell is going on here?

i drove past the assembly hall today and noticed the square blue jw.org signs on the building.

coupled with the steel gate that keeps worldlings out, it really looks quite cultish.. so is that the new name for the kingdom halls or something?

sd-7

Yeah, I'll reiterate what I said on the thread Nosferatu mentioned--the Assembly Hall in my area also has the JW.ORG logo on it--that blue square logo. I was just out there yesterday to take my family to the assembly. So it's happening.

--sd-7

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JW.ORG signs to be put on all Kingdom Halls! New directive.

by stuckinarut2 in

so i have been told that all kingdom halls are to have a large jw.org sign placed prominently out the front..... can anyone confirm this?.

sd-7

I just saw the old assembly hall last weekend and it definitely does have the JW.ORG logo on the sign. I don't suppose that's an indication of anything, is it?

--sd-7

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BORG running low on $$$??

by fader77 in

dear brothers:.

re: personal literature supply.

reducing existing stock at the branch office before the revisions are released.

sd-7

If they are admitting that the current books are out of date and new versions with updated "truth" (in other words, it wasn't "truth" to begin with) are about to be released, they are clearly admitting that they offer false or defective information to their readers.

As overt an admission as you'll ever get from them that they don't care about teaching people the truth at all. Or maybe they can rationalize it by saying, well, *most* of it is still 'the truth', so why delay giving it out on account of a little information that has already been adjusted? If the person is really interested, they'll find out the adjusted teaching anyway. No sense in wasting a good book, right?

--sd-7

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w14 12/15-E Study Edition

by wifibandit in

click "premium download".

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pdf: http://bayfiles.net/file/1kv2k/uaqn2y/w_e20141215.pdf.

sd-7

You all forget that this is obvious to us because we are awaken,

Forget? Not at all. But sometimes it's good to say it again, especially for those who might be lurking right now and thinking the same things.

--sd-7

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w14 12/15-E Study Edition

by wifibandit in

click "premium download".

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pdf: http://bayfiles.net/file/1kv2k/uaqn2y/w_e20141215.pdf.

sd-7

The explanation of the 'prodigal son' illustration stands out to me. They mention that returning to the organization--by their own words--can be "embarrassing". Well, who made it embarrassing? You were the ones who designed the system to shame people. The father of the prodigal son doesn't put shame on his son, he welcomes him back with open arms and throws a party! No embarrassment there. It's the self-righteous other son who wants to shame the prodigal. There's a giant mental blank where they skip over how vastly different this illustration is from how the organization operates.

Also, the kid who stayed out late playing pool and violent computer games is pretty hilarious. Seriously? That's the worst you could come up with? Is their goal to protect kids from playing pool and Call of Duty? I'm sure that's what Jesus had in mind when he appointed the 'faithful slave'. He must be relieved.

--sd-7

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I don't like some of the comments recently on skin color...

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

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friends

black perosn beats up black girl for being too white or white people rapes another witness.. .

who f**king cares you morons.!.

let me explains.

sd-7

We've got to learn to see people as individuals and not just as part of a group. Focus on what they do and who they really are, and not just what they look like. That's the way I see it.

--sd-7

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BOE Letter: New Adjustments

by pixel in

**this was predicted from some members here**.

to all congregations .

re: adjustments in organizational terminology and assembly arrangements .

sd-7

I guess I need to be on here more often. I found out about this first from my wife, like last weekend! Clearly, I'm not keeping up with Jehovah's celestial chariot...

--sd-7

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Conversation with 4 elders: A study in smear tactics.

by problemaddict in

bucket shop bill has a thread in which they are "counseled" for something, that ends up not even being true.

instead of the elder who made the accusation apologizing to them, they are made to feel like they should appreciate his overexuberence.. it struck me that this is a common tactic.

here is a story of my own.

sd-7

Now that is a classic moment. Thank you for sharing this. Everybody needs to read this thread.

--sd-7