Posts by lepermessiah

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Faders, How Often Do You/Did you Want to Pull the Pin on that Grenade?

by OnTheWayOut in

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many here have stopped going to the kh and many have just reduced activity to some degree.

while today is not that day for me, i have had the "screw it all" attitude every now and again and was ready to tell the wt off, call the p.o.

or whoever, call my mother and tell her all about the "god-damned cult" she's in and why it's just wrong.

lepermessiah

I won't close the door on my belief in God/Christ but I won't ever let a man dictate to me what I should and shouldn't believe.

X- well said!

I told my wife a few weeks ago, "those guys arent anymore inspired than my big toe" ..... she really couldnt argue the point with me, but fear doesnt allow her to get past the "F&D Slave Class" crap we were all ingrained with.

I am a caring, loving, intelligent person until it comes to religion. At that point, Satan must have gotten to me. It's a contradiction that they don't see clearly.

Thats a great point OTWO - My wife told me "well, if you can quit serving Jehovah, you could quit me too".....I told her that number one I still have faith in God, but I am convinced that this organization has nothing to do with him, and also that my love for her was not conditional on her being a JW, and that my marriage values and vows are MINE and MINE alone. I quit serving a man-made organization posing as God's voice....thats how I see it. Its not like I am going to go around and start acting like a prick or something - in fact I feel like I am a better person because I feel much more compassion toward others and have a totally different view of "worldly people" - I was always very liberal in my association anyway, but I feel my horizons expanding.

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Saw this and loved it.....

by lepermessiah in

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another shot of love to the wtbs..... .

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lepermessiah

Another shot of love to the WTBS....

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What was your favorite Beatles song that you remember ?

by thetrueone in

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for myself growing up in the 60's it was mostly the beatles that drew my attention as well as many others.. as for the entire body of work by them, there might never be another four piece musical group like them.. sad to think that the younger generation today only has thug rap/hip hop trash or britney spears to listen to.. the quality of music may have diminished itself when it started to become more of a visual expression of art rather than .

purely audio form of entertainment.. just one of my favorites out of many.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfrk4ca0dlg&feature=related.

lepermessiah

something about sitting in his armchair and feel his disease

Was that a reference to Joseph F Rutherford?

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My Short Letter to the Bethel Family

by Farkel in

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dear brothers,.

anyone who works for a group who has been continuously wrong for 130 years is just wasting his time at the brooklyn bethel.. love, .

farkel.

lepermessiah

Thanks mutiny - thats why I chose it.....crank it up for me too!!

That is my favorite Metallica song (I quoted it from the platform in my final talk-LOL) and i love how it blasts religion.......

Yeah, I couldnt resist the Agape.....that used to drive me nuts.......hahahah.....its like saying "Good Day" or something.

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"Is he dangerous?" the young boy asks. "Well, he's a hockey player?"

by dissed in

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fighting an awful sinus headache and not being able to sleep the other night, i turned on the television to watch a movie.. my choice?

"mvp: most valuable primate".

a classic child's story and hockey fans favorite about a chimpanzee who leads a hockey team to the championship game.. will they win it all with jack?

lepermessiah

I live in a huge NHL town, and one of my best friends and his dad have season tickets.......

Anytime the brothers from the hall go to the game, there is one thing that gets them out of their seat....

A good old fashion fight!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SM-2KKH7P8

All of the people I grew up with love Hockey Fights, NFL Football, etc.............

We all loved Domi, Probert, Kocur, etc.......anyone who got up, made a scene and walked out would have been told to not let the door hit them on the way out. One of my CO's loved hockey too - he would have been ready to drop the gloves and join in if he could.....LOL

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What was your favorite Beatles song that you remember ?

by thetrueone in

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for myself growing up in the 60's it was mostly the beatles that drew my attention as well as many others.. as for the entire body of work by them, there might never be another four piece musical group like them.. sad to think that the younger generation today only has thug rap/hip hop trash or britney spears to listen to.. the quality of music may have diminished itself when it started to become more of a visual expression of art rather than .

purely audio form of entertainment.. just one of my favorites out of many.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfrk4ca0dlg&feature=related.

lepermessiah

Another one I forgot is "You Never Give Me Your Money".....I love that song......

Beatles songs are like Lays Potato Chips -"You cant eat just one!"

Like ilovebirthdays mentioned about Golden Slumbers, YNGMYM cheered me up a lot when i was a burned out JW.....

One sweet dream - pick up the bags and get in the limousine

SOON WE'LL BE AWAY FROM HERE........step on the gas and wipe that tear away......

One sweet dream came true.......today (awesome George guitar enters)

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Faders, How Often Do You/Did you Want to Pull the Pin on that Grenade?

by OnTheWayOut in

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many here have stopped going to the kh and many have just reduced activity to some degree.

while today is not that day for me, i have had the "screw it all" attitude every now and again and was ready to tell the wt off, call the p.o.

or whoever, call my mother and tell her all about the "god-damned cult" she's in and why it's just wrong.

lepermessiah

OTWO - I appreciate all the good advice you have left for me on my various posts.

Much like you, its my wife and immediate family.

I would love to write a scathing, blistering, "Fat Man and Little Boy" bomb to the WTBS, but right now my family is my first concern.

I still care about many of the people in the congregation, but I really do HATE the Society.....the organization itself is uncaring and dogmatic, like Ray F clearly showed. I think of them as Religious Nazi's - so blinded by their fervor and drunk with power, while they run rough-shod over people.

My family wouldnt shun me since they never have done it to other family members, but it would be a strain. If I even allude to speaking against the Society, it makes them really uncomfortable. I think I could get DF'ed for being alcoholic, smoking, etc....and they would be less stressed out than if I were to go out with both guns blazing. I keep my arguments generic, without pulling that card out. I tried it once and it was a really big mess with a few family members. I smoothed it over quickly, but it showed me that the time is not right.

I have really let go a lot of the resentment and bitterness towards the whole thing (after I just described how much I hate the society - LOL) , now I just look at it as a life-lesson (albeit a huge one that wasted a lot of time and tears) - I am too busy thinking about the end goal to abandon my plan right now. I feel really peaceful about knowing that the TRUTH is not THE TRUTH.....that makes me feel great everyday.

Plus, like you said, I look at it like they are victims to good intentions. They want to do what is right, unfortunately they are under the influence of a wolf dressed in sheeps clothing.

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What was your favorite Beatles song that you remember ?

by thetrueone in

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for myself growing up in the 60's it was mostly the beatles that drew my attention as well as many others.. as for the entire body of work by them, there might never be another four piece musical group like them.. sad to think that the younger generation today only has thug rap/hip hop trash or britney spears to listen to.. the quality of music may have diminished itself when it started to become more of a visual expression of art rather than .

purely audio form of entertainment.. just one of my favorites out of many.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfrk4ca0dlg&feature=related.

lepermessiah

Did anyone catch Paul on Later with Jools Holland?

It was just on here in the States on the Ovation channel.......

His band is awesome - they did "Ive Got a Feeling" and it sounded great.

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My Short Letter to the Bethel Family

by Farkel in

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dear brothers,.

anyone who works for a group who has been continuously wrong for 130 years is just wasting his time at the brooklyn bethel.. love, .

farkel.

lepermessiah

Dear Brothers,

When you said that "Religion is a Snare and a Racket, I assume you were talking about yourselves?

Agape,

lepermessiah

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Help me with a good comeback!

by lepermessiah in

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ive mentioned on here that i am fading and that i have been missing a ton of meetings lately.

(no, i havent been missing them).

i go on the occasional sunday with my wife and sit like a bump on a log.

lepermessiah

Thanks to everyone! I needed a laugh and also a good way to handle this situation!

I would love to tell them where to go, but I actually really like the Elder who I spoke with. He is a good guy, but unfortunately a company man too.

Mouthy - I feel more and more optimistic with my wife all the time. She is very accepting of the situation. Our relationship is really better than it ever has been. She doesnt guilt me about anything anymore, and she was laughing about the talk situation. She knew I had no intention of giving one again anyway. The funny thing is that I used to be the School Overseer (TM) and used to give impromptu talks all the time. Those were usually my best ones!

She used to say I didnt communicate enough - once I was tired of being miserable and poured out my heart, we really started to improve our entire relationship. She was cool when I resigned as an elder, and she was glad to have me all to herself after many years of marriage and elder BS.

I think right now my wife is being "won over without saying a word"

I am supportive of her, but she knows I am clear on my position. I think she felt the same hurt and resentment the last year but isnt ready for the next step. I have mentioned on here before that a close member of the family was disfellowshipped by a kangaroo court, and she was livid. We never once broke contact with the family member. That was encouraging to me, since when we got married this same family member was DF'ed from a "previous offense" and she was very uncomfortable around her.

She doesnt really disagree with me on a ton of points- she sees the hypocrisy, she has seen that Big Brother doesnt give a - - - - about the "Brothers and Sisters" and she has seen plenty of BOZO elders. She is still intent on "Serving Jehovah", so I am working on her slowly.

A HEARTFELT thanks to all of you - this board has been a "godsend" since I feel like I can come on here and discuss things that I havent been able to talk about openly for my entire life......I am looking forward to the day of sharing more and more of my experiences so I can "Pay it Forward"