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Do You Think a Schism is in the Future?
by lepermessiah ini was thinking about this over the weekend.
just this week, there was the "consolidation" talk (in my wife's congregation) , the article about shunning that went viral, and the annual "show your love and obedience to jehovah by giving us your money" watchtower.
i know my wife said people are running scared about this consolidation even though it was sold as maximizing space to help other areas, build kh in other countries, etc...... the media and government has hit them hard in many countries, but they have gotten off easy in the usa, where the majority of the people and money reside.
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Classic Talk Regarding KH Consolidation
by lepermessiah inlast night i was listening in as my spouse was on the phone line.
there was a big "local needs" talk announced and it was speculated to be about the congregation reshuffling.. that ended up to be the case.
i thought i used to lay it on thick from the platform....... this was the ultimate spin job - worthy of political office or a spot on the governing body.. one thing that stood out "while the numbers may not necessarily indicate it, it is clear jehovah is speeding up the work".
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Update on Detroit-Area Murder Suicide - Front Page Article
by lepermessiah inhttps://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/19/keego-harbor-jehovahs-witness-mom-triple-murder-suicide/351559002/.
this was on the front page of freep.com this morning - sadly there are some factual errors in this article that people will jump on (not allowed to go to college was in original article for instance - hopefully the reporter will correct it).
interesting reading the comments below the article - all kinds of opinions.
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Office Space - My answer to all things JW
by lepermessiah inso..... i bumped into an old jw aquaintance who actually asked me if i enjoyed the assembly.. when i said i did not attend - they asked me why i missed it...... i said "well, i can't say i missed it, bob!
" (knowing he had seen the movie office space - when it was r rated!!).
he just looked at me dumbfounded and changed the subject......haha... i'm waiting for an old elder to come by and tell me that they miss me at the meeting........... i love their "fishing" approach!
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English Football Fans - your thoughts about the WC team?
by lepermessiah inkeep it clean this is a family board!
i am really curious to get some thoughts from some of the england supporters...... the media over here in the usa has been pretty critical of the english squad, but it looks like the media in england is completely trashing the team.. it appears that much of the criticism is valid, but i also feel that england got shafted horribly by the blown call on the goal, and this is from a die-hard germany supporter.
i think germany was the better side yesterday, but who knows what would have happened if the score is 2-2 at halftime?
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Throw out "doctrine" - Did the lack of true Christian Love drive you out of the WT?
by lepermessiah inanother argument i have used lately with my family is that even if the wt was correct on every doctrinal point (which obviously they are not) the biggest thing that drove me away was the lack of true compassion and "christian" love from the majority of the congregation, especially the elders.. i have been bringing up doctrinal points in small doses, but the biggest scriptures i use against them is john 13:35 (my disciples if you have love among yourselves) and 1 corinthians 13 (pauls description of love).. i love the irony, since the wt uses john 13:35 to "show" they are a true brotherhood, and they are using 1 cor 13 (love never fails) as their year text!
the wt's version of love makes me want to vomit.
i like how ray franz described it in his book - the wt produces people with generally good morals and an outward appearance of warmth, but underneath they typically lack compassion toward others.
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Judgement Day for the USA, England, and Germany at the WC
by lepermessiah inno, i am not talking about the anglo-american world power!
what is your feeling for todays matches?.
this is a huge match for the future of usa soccer.
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Jw's and the endless "Special Campaigns" in the field ministry now
by lepermessiah ineverytime my family goes out in service now, its seems its for a new "special campaign".
already this year has been:.
1) memorial invitations.
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Did the WT totally "luck out" with World War I starting in 1914?
by lepermessiah inmy family is still fixated on the 1914 date, simply because world war i started that year.. i told them i will agree it is a significant year in world history, but that the 1914 date as presented by jw's is based on lies and charlatanry.. i said "i think the wt really lucked out with 1914 with wwi starting that year - it keeps most jw's stuck on that date" .
the standard answer is "well, that was the year everything went haywire"...... let the circular reasoning continue .
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A JW's worst nightmare - A SMURFS convention!
by lepermessiah inthis looks a lot more fun than the district convention!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86uzifhizzk&feature=related.
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