Posts by AdaMakawee

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Music that's sooooooo gay

by littlerockguy in

you know what i mean, that gay music that you may like that you know that's got to be in every gay man's music collection, lol.

i think i just outted myself on facebook posting this one i used to hear in the clubs years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym6ptlnkvp4 .

Uh huh LOL well I'm not sure what would be in every gay woman's collection! Never got into the club scene. HOWEVER having said that, went to this concert years ago and never saw so many gay men shaking their hineys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbXiECmCZ94

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"Extreme physical abuse" only grounds for separation, NOT divorce.

by cedars in

forgive me if i'm a bit slow with the title to this thread.

the true absurdity of the cult that robbed me of my intellect for so long is still beginning to dawn on me.. i'm doing more research into domestic violence as part of a response to the notorious "wife beating" article in the feb 2012 watchtower.. i was shocked to find a question from readers in the w75 5/1 p286-288 which basically said that a battered wife would not be scripturally free to divorce her husband.

my first reaction was that this stance must have changed since 1975, but then i dipped into my own memory from serving as an elder, and of course, adultery (including porneia) is given as the only scriptural grounds for divorce down to this day.. please can somebody correct me if i'm wrong, preferably with a reference?

AdaMakawee

Yea this is exactly what the elders told me, I could leave him but never remarry again. After I did leave him and divorce, my parents drove 1500 miles to chastise me (my dad and elder). My dad always maintained it was something I did that caused him to be abusive. But then, my dad was also an abuser so I guess I could hardly expect a reasoned answer from him.

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Multiple Abuse ...

by talesin in

i wonder how many posters here are not only in recovery from spiritual abuse (jws) , but other traumas,, such as sexual and physical abuse,,, or rape as a young person (ie, child or teen).. .

how many of us are recovering from double - or triple - trauma ... ?.

anyone want to share?.

AdaMakawee

Ohio, Tal and others,
Sorry, I don't get on here often, and I've been pretty sick the last couple of weeks, so I didn't intentionally ignore - actually the last couple of days I've been meaning to get back on here and see how this thread progressed.

As for the enemas, yes to a degree I can see this "colonic" thing, my mom was into naturpaths and didn't trust doctors either. But not that often, and it wouldn't explain being douched as a small girl. My mom knew what she was doing though in that regard, because she always told me the hymen could not be broken so that my husband would know I was a virgin. Later she would not let me wear tampons for the same reason. Never could figure that one out. I remember reading Sybil and thinking how similar things were.

PTSD for adults is, I think, a different animal from that experienced by abused children. At an age when you should be learning familial trust and bonding, and at a time when your bond with your parent is most important, at your most sensitive formative years, the people that should be loving and protecting you are the ones torturing, abusing, beating and otherwise harming you. That is a hurt that goes deep, and that you carry for a lifetime.

So many times I am so very thankful that I came out of this as well as I did. Friends and other family members battle serious addiction trying to forget this stuff. Me? I'm only obese, though I will say there are some serious medical conditions that have compounded that.

Ohio I remember talking to you as well and always enjoyed it. If you'd like to PM me I would be glad to share contact information.

Lady Lee, you have been very helpful over time in the advice and wisdom you offer.

((((huggs)))) to all survivors. Keep seeking out someone to talk to, and by sharing - you truly lighten that load you carry.

Love to all - Ada

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Watching Rocky Horror for the 1st time

by rebel8 in

and it's weird.. it's one of those things i was afraid to do post-dubbery because it was supposedly evil.

once i got over that, i kind of forgot to see it.. evil it's not.

lol .

AdaMakawee

Love that movie! Doing the time warp again!

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Multiple Abuse ...

by talesin in

i wonder how many posters here are not only in recovery from spiritual abuse (jws) , but other traumas,, such as sexual and physical abuse,,, or rape as a young person (ie, child or teen).. .

how many of us are recovering from double - or triple - trauma ... ?.

anyone want to share?.

AdaMakawee

My mom also liked to do weird stuff, except she liked to give me enemas and douches constantly as a small child. I was also beaten often, with a belt, a paddle, most of the time it was a willow switch - and we had to go get it too, if it wasn't a good one we got it worse. I was isolated from other children from the time I was an infant until I was school aged, just my brothers and sisters. The people at the hall didn't really associate with us that much. My mom was fanatical and loved telling me horrible stories about what Jehovah would do to me because I was so evil. We were yelled at, screamed, at, constantly belittled and told we were nothing because anything we could do well was not due to us but was only Jehovah working through us. I was the third child of 7, my oldest brother was 7 years older, he was a bully. My next older brother was 3 years older and he liked the psychological warfare better. He contstantly played head games, and constantly told me that no one liked me. I was taught I was lower than snail slime, that no one loved me, that I would grow up to be killed at armegeddon because I could not play the witness games right.

What you get from all of this is PTSD. And for those of us that just built walls to shut out the pain and humiliation, it does come back later in life to haunt you. To this day I'm socially awkward and don't really know how to have relationships. I have worked very hard to forgive my parents, didn't go into details with my dad, mostly he left it up to mom, but when he did wade in it was with fists.

Of course I grew up to marry an abusive man, and when I told my dad how badly he treated me (he was an elder by the way), his comment was - "what did you do to make him treat you that way?"

The good thing that came of this is, I survived it. I have spent a lot of time healing. And I chose not to raise my son in this manner. He's a good kid and I'm proud of him.

(((Ohio))) I feel your pain, brother!

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Is homosexuality ever justifiable? I say YES!!!

by TimothyT in

in the january 2012 awake, pages 28-29 there is another article about homosexuality.. .

the writers argue that genetics, the environment, and sexual abuse do not justify homosexuality.

the bible clearly states that homosexuality is wrong and is an abhorrent sin.

AdaMakawee

It's always hard to tell by reading the book though, not until you see the musical, then you know.

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Is homosexuality ever justifiable? I say YES!!!

by TimothyT in

in the january 2012 awake, pages 28-29 there is another article about homosexuality.. .

the writers argue that genetics, the environment, and sexual abuse do not justify homosexuality.

the bible clearly states that homosexuality is wrong and is an abhorrent sin.

AdaMakawee

Yea I always thought he was gay now I know its true!

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Taking Back the Holidays

by Quendi in

jw
friends

with canada having observed its own thanksgiving day, i am reminded that the holidays are approaching beginning with halloween and terminating with twelfth night on 5 january.

this will be an interesting holiday season for me.

when i became one of jehovah's witnesses, i gave them all up of course.