Seriously though, to me the ultimate feel good food is by far, and I'm sure Outlaw will agree with me.........
miseryloveselders
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OK guys, we're off the hook!!!
by JeffT inhttp://www.themedguru.com/20091206/newsfeature/stare-boobs-longer-life-study-86131320.html.
frankfurt, germany, december 6 -- a rather bizarre study carried out by german researchers suggests that staring at women's breasts is good for men's health and increases their life expectancy.. .
according to dr. karen weatherby, a gerontologist and author of the study, gawking at womens breasts is a healthy practice, almost at par with an intense exercise regime, that prolongs the lifespan of a man by five years.. .
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miseryloveselders
Just to spoil the fun:
From the article:
The German research is believed to be published in the New England Journal of Medicine.
From Snopes:
Claim: According to a study published in The New England Journal of Medicine, "ogling women's breasts is good for a man's health."
Status: False.http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/breasts.asp
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Jerk. Hey mods can HintofLime be banned?
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My brother is now being trained as a Circut Overseer.
by Voices ini received a phone call from my mother (who is still a jw, but very accepting of me still as her loving son, even though i was disfellowshiped for questioning the oranization and choosing the bible over the watchtower at that time).
she makes normal talk, just regular stuff pertaining to situations of ours.
about me coming to visit, and or her coming.
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miseryloveselders
Sure you're not being overly self conscious?
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Is it okay for MS to have a goatee?
by Iamallcool inwell, on his facebook profile pic he had a goatee on him.
it looks like it is very recent and he gave the public talk very recently, after his talk, his congregation invited him for a dinner at someones house.
i see a pic of him, but he is all clean shaven.
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miseryloveselders
I've never seen an active JW male in good standing with a goatee. Every now and then I grow a soul patch, and even that supposedly is inappropriate. When I was teenager and grew it, my folks jumped all over me. Even as a Ministerial Servant, an elder who is currently not serving admonished me to cut it off. Nowadays, I do what I want as far as the soul patch is concerned. Some meetings I get lazy, and won't shave at all, especially if I'm not going to be on stage or anything. I don't have a problem showing up with a few days worth of beard growth.
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OK guys, we're off the hook!!!
by JeffT inhttp://www.themedguru.com/20091206/newsfeature/stare-boobs-longer-life-study-86131320.html.
frankfurt, germany, december 6 -- a rather bizarre study carried out by german researchers suggests that staring at women's breasts is good for men's health and increases their life expectancy.. .
according to dr. karen weatherby, a gerontologist and author of the study, gawking at womens breasts is a healthy practice, almost at par with an intense exercise regime, that prolongs the lifespan of a man by five years.. .
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miseryloveselders
Where's Palmtree? Who knew her pictures would contribute to our health. I knew there was a reason I felt like an Olympian after seeing her's and couple other apostate gal's pictures..........
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Born-Ins, DAd, DFd, Undercover Apostates, The WT, & the American Negro
by miseryloveselders inhttps://pantherfile.uwm.edu/gjay/www/whiteness/stranger.htm.
a couple weeks ago i bought james baldwin's notes of a native son, and i devoured the entire book in a couple nights after getting off work.
one of the essays within the book that really stood out to me was, "stranger in the village.
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miseryloveselders
https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/gjay/www/Whiteness/stranger.htm
A couple weeks ago I bought James Baldwin's Notes Of A Native Son, and I devoured the entire book in a couple nights after getting off work. One of the essays within the book that really stood out to me was, "Stranger In The Village." It recounts the author's experience of being the first black man to visit a certain remote Swiss village during the early 1900s. He traveled to this village seeking tranquility to assist his writing. Throughout this essay he compares his experiences with white people in both America, and this remote Swiss village. What really stood out to me in this essay, was how similar were the experiences of blacks at that time, and what we as apostates are dealing with now. I wanted to share a couple observations with you. I'll just copy and paste certain points from that essay, and add some brief comments of my own. I put a link to the entire essay above for those that wish to read the whole thing.
And this is so despite everything I may do to feel differently, despite my friendly conversations with the bistro owner's wife, despite their three-year-old son who has at last become my friend, despite the saluts and bonsoirs which I exchange with people as I walk, despite the fact that I know that no individual can be taken to task for what history is doing, or has done. I say that the culture of these people controls me-but they can scarcely be held responsible for European culture. America comes out of Europe, but these people have never seen America, nor have most of them seen more of Europe than the hamlet at the foot of their mountain. Yet they move with an authority which I shall never have; and they regard me, quite rightly, not only as a stranger in the village but as a suspect latecomer, bearing no credentials, to everything they have-however unconsciously-inherited.-James Baldwin
In the same fashion that the white villagers viewed JB as a suspected latecomer, bearing no credentials, the WT has created a similar culture within the average JW congregation. Due to the WT's doctrines regarding the "faithful and discreet slave", and "Babylon the Great", its impossible for a JW to look positively upon any other individual Christian, or group of Christians. Even the word "church" is a foul word amongst JWs. The other thing he touched on, was that the villagers recognized their superior position over the writer, despite the fact that they contributed pretty much nothing to the advancements in modern civilization during that time. Essentially, he was more sophisticated and experienced than the villagers, but they still recognized him as being less than themselves. The superiority that they felt over him, which he acknowldged, was unconsciously inherited. Reading that made me think about Lyman Swingle's comment that Ray Franz recounted where he said that the WT got 1914 from the Seventh Adventists, lock, stock, and barrel. The average JW isn't remotely aware of this organization's history of false prophecies and use of pyramidology. Yet JWs will still thumb their nose at "Christendom." JWs see themselves as superior Christians, despite the fact that they unconsciously inherited major doctrines from Babylon the Great. Not to mention, the more I research I'm finding that Babylon the Great has maintained some doctrines that the WT for whatever reason is hesitant to acknowledge as truth.
This was not the case with the American Negro slave. He is unique among the black men of the world in that his past was taken from him, almost literally, at one blow.One wonders what on earth the first slave found to say to the first dark child he bore. I am told that there are Haitians able to trace their ancestry back to African kings, but any American Negro wishing to go back so far will find his journey through time abruptly arrested by the signature on the bill of sale which served as the entrance paper for his ancestor. At the time-to say nothing of the circumstances-of the enslavement of the captive black man who was to become the American Negro, there was not the remotest possibility that he would ever take power from his master's hands. There was no reason to suppose that his situation would ever change, nor was there, shortly, anything to indicate that his situation had ever been different. It was his necessity, in the words of E. Franklin Frazier, to find a "motive for living under American culture or die." The identity of the American Negro comes out of this extreme situation, and the evolution of this identity was a source of the most intolerable anxiety in the minds and the lives of his masters.-James Baldwin
As a born in, I often feel like I have no past. I don't have any roots to connect with, spiritually speaking. Ever since I've begun this spiritual journey, I've struggled at times with moving beyond WT Publications. It was a tremendous step to browse the religious sections at book stores. As a born in JW, the buck stops and begins with the WT. Everything else is false, untruth, lies, misleading information, worldly propaganda, Satan's system of things, etc.. It hasn't been a simple matter to explore doctrines, and other material that contradicts what I was raised for so long to believe as The Truth. In a way this has actually benefited me because as JB quotes E Franklin Frazier, I had to find a motive for why I may continue on as a JW, or leave the faith I was born into. It wasn't enough to go out in service, and attend meetings and simply play along. I wasn't satisified, and quite frankly I felt I was getting the wool pulled over me. It's been a heluva journey so far, and hasn't been easy by any means, but I'm yet to lose any motivation. I need to find what I'm looking for.
For the history of the American Negro is unique also in this: that the question of his humanity, and of his rights therefore as a human being, became a burning one for several generations of Americans, so burning a question that it ultimately became one of those used to divide the nation. It is out of this argument that the venom of the epithet: Nigger! is derived. It is an argument which Europe has never had, and hence Europe: quite sincerely fails to understand how or why the argument arose in the first place, why its effects are frequently disastrous and always so unpredictable, why it refuses until today to be entirely settled. Europe's black possessions remained-and do remain-in Europe's colonies, at which remove they represented no threat whatever to European identity. If they posed any problem at all for the European conscience, it was a problem which remained comfortingly abstract: in effect, the black man, as a man, did not exist for Europe. But in America, even as a slave, he was an inescapable part of the general social fabric and no American could escape having an attitude toward him. Americans attempt until today to make an abstraction of the Negro, but the very nature of these abstractions reveals the tremendous effects the presence of the Negro has had on the American character.-James Baldwin
In the same fashion that the early Americans were disaffected Europeans, I view the WT's early history much in the same way considering Russell wasn't satisfied with what he'd been spoonfed. Rutherford took it to an entirely different level by taking over an organization much of the same way the early Americans did the Natives Americans, and then he created a culture within the organization of an us vs them mentality. That mentality is still present today, and in my personal opinion, nowhere is it more prevelant than what we see on this message board. We really are the niggers of the WT organization. The question of what to do with the Negro in this country was one of the issues, if not thee issue that drove this country to civil war. In a similar vein, the question of what to do with those not doing obesience to the faithful and discreet slave as the WT defines it, has created skirmishes here and there throughout the organization. A Civil War of sorts may have been narrowly averted when one considers "The Franz Incident." If an incident such as that occured today, with the internet, it would pick up some serious steam and I believe would have the potential to rip this organization apart, or at least severely wound it.
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Mother-in-law sends some reasoning on wedding anniversaries vs birthdays...
by garyneal inmother-in-law sends my wife a thank you card because she did something nice for her mom on their 33rd wedding anniversary.
they went out to eat dinner, a cake was provided, and everyone had a good time.
frankly, all that was needed was the candles and a song and it would be no different than a birthday party.
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miseryloveselders
So, if they were wrong for christians - then why doesn't the new testament come out and say so?
It does in The Old But New Non-International But Localized Version..........Acts 15:20 says, "to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals, from birthday parties with guillotines or Ginsu knives, and from blood."
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"Islamaphobia is Unpatriotic"--Article With Disturbing Video
by Justitia Themis inhttp://www.libsandcons.com/1/post/2011/03/islamophobia-is-unpatriotic.html.
they are abused with calls of go home, and terrorist, little children are subjected to it as well.
a villa park councilwoman named deborah pauly echoes the rhetoric of pamela geller and even calls for the murder of participants (who she labels terrorists) at the charity event.
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miseryloveselders
I haven't read all of the article or the comments, and i apologize. However, one thing distinctly stood out to me. Pamela Geller, the name Geller, she's a Jew, correct? Something I've never quite understood is how people who have histories of being slandered, oppressed, abused, and systematically murdered, will turn around in the blink of an eye and do the exact same thing to another group of people. I've never understood that. There's a side of me that wonders if some Jews feel that they're in a competition with Arabs for the United State's sympathy card. Of course that's already being played out with the conflict amongst the Palestinians and Israelis. But, there's more to the Jew/Muslim conflict being played out in the media. When you consider some evengelical groups still believe the Jews are God's chosen people, and that some Jews are more than willing to take advantage of it, its not far fetched to say that some Jews like Pamela Geller are trying to tug at America's heart in the name of patriotism, when really its just another case of a Jew hating a Muslim. At least thats what it looks like to me on the surface.
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Responding to Child Custody Case booklet in Court
by Dogpatch inthis can be used to show that they are normal.
educational value of social contact; learn how to meet people, strike up a conversation and reason on a variety of topics.
does church teach that young people should learn only about religion of jehovah's witnesses?(no.
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miseryloveselders
You dirty little filthy apostates got your hands on the WT's Child Custody Booklet!!
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You jackasses in Bethel or at the Branch, need to cut me a check.........
by miseryloveselders intuesday night, i drove to a couple of older sister's homes, and dropped off their magazines, and kindom ministries.
thursday night, i went to the meeting and cleaned and locked up the building.
i also dropped someone off who earlier recieved a ride to the hall but their ride couldn't come back to take them home.
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Dang, JW GoneBad, you just had to bump this huh? I was hoping this thread would just die and disappear in the archives never to reappear until I was a distant memory on this board.
You know being a born in, I can't take emotion out of the equation when I consider whats been done to myself and others. I've been raised to be subservient to a religous publishing company. Remember when Kathy Lee Gifford was in the hot seat for having her name associated with a brand that used sweatshop labor? Remember how she tried to deflect the attention placed on her, onto Michael Jordan and Nike? Remember the outrage about kids in Asia manufacturing clothes for Kmart, and Air Jordan shoes for pennies in appalling conditions? This religion is similar in that babies are born into this religion and raised to be subservient volunteers for a religious publishing company. Where's the outrage?
You know, babies and children aren't entirely ignorant of whats happening to them during their formative years. Babies recognize that if they cry, they'll get attention. Children, much like animals or inmates, recognize that they'll be rewarded for good behavior. So they do whats expected of them, and perform accordingly. Then one day they hit their teenage years, and they're able to comprehend if even only on a limited scale, that something ain't quite right. At the same time, they're fullly aware that as long as they're under their parent's roof, they're going to have to continue to perform. That performance unfortunately includes the act of getting "baptized recognzing this organization as Jehovah's spirit directed organization." As a teenager they've got so much on their mind, their hormones are going haywire, and all they want to do is have fun, keep peaceful relations with their family and friends. So much going on that often enough they're not even aware that "Jehovah's spirit directed organization" isn't even scriptural, never mind Jesus said to get baptized in the name of the FAther, Son, and the Holy Spirit. But those young people are too busy making their parents and congregations proud, not realizing the gravity of the decision they just made.
Then it dawns on them well into adulthood usually around their late twenties or early to mid thirties, that the worst mistake they ever made was in their teenage years when they decided to get baptized. By the time they figured it out, sometimes they're married, and have children, with extended relatives deep within this organization. Sometimes their very livelyhoods depend upon prominent individuals and families in their congregations. Educational prospects that they should have explored during their teenage years, are difficult to persue now because they have other responsibilities. Sometimes those responsibilities include congregational matters that they supposedly reached out for. Volunteered for, or made themselves available for. Enter resentment.
All these years we've been raised, going out in field service, giving talks, going to assemblies, going to book release conventions labeled as District Conventions, the Service Meeting, the Theocratic Ministry School, the Congregation Book Study, the special week of activity during the Circuit Overseer and his wife's visit, the Memorial, numerous special campaigns with tracts and brochers, Family Worship Night, and a million other things. All the stress dealing with preperation and attending all of these endless functions is enough to make you murder. The financial toll it takes on you, especially considering you have a limited income due to a limited education, and they're not reimbursing you for nathan up in Walkhill. Yet, they want you do more, contribute more, encourage and pressure others to do more. It never ends, never stops, and they just keep pushing. I haven't recieved a dime from those jackasses up in Walkhill. They owe me for the child labor that was forced upon me, and the emotional and mental coercion that has held my heart and mind captive for the past two decades of my life. It took 30 something years to figure out that I've been getting the raw end of the deal, and about a year and half to make sure that I wasn't kidding myself. A year and a half of pinching myself to make sure I'm not crazy, or being selfish.
Not to sound like I want to justify complaining, but I do believe we have a right to spazz out every now and then.