I always got a kick out of these stories. Nobody in their right mind is going to threaten their employer with quitting so as to attend a convention. Speaking personally, I hate using vacation days for the convention. It's a waste of a vacation day. With the job i have now, I have a little over a month's worth of vacation time saved, and it irritates me to even have to use two days worth of it to attend the district convention. Waste of time and money.
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Major (5 star) barf alert about DC experience
by blindersoff incomments from our dear sister in the fort worth, tx area.
her email address is: xxxxxxxxxx [ pm me if you want it]
"i went to the sunday session of the convention this week and it was so .
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Regular Pioneers: How low will the WT go?
by Alfred inso i just came across an article in the watchtower (december 1, 1959 page 726) where it mentions that pioneers (or should i say culportuers?
) in the 1930s had to put in a minimum of 150 hoursper month in field circus with the phonograph (i'm guessing the record being played was rutherford's "millions" speech).
i have to wonder how many pioneers the wt would actually have nowadays if this were still the minimum monthly quota and if they'd still have to stand on a street corner with some sort of audio system... in today's economy, i really don't think they'll find much more than 2 potential candidates per circuit... which is obviously the reason that the gb keeps lowering the bar... .
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But I have to ask: How low do you think the WT will go (on the monthly min hrs) before regular pioneers eventually reach the treshold of losing their "elevated status" in the Congo? 65 hours? 50 hours? 35 hours?
I think it lost its "elevated status" years ago. There's a reason why the WT has to keep printing articles "encouraging" JWs to consider pioneering. Now as Slimboy mentioned they've offered a discount for the month of April 2011, similar to a coupon. I guess when flogging the sheep with so called encouragement articles doesn't work, the WT resorts to plan B which is to make it more simple so as to leave no excuses for why one cannot pioneer, at least for the month of April anyway. It's almost as if they're saying, "we dropped it to thirty hours for you lazy jackasses! What more do you ingrates want us to do for you so that you can worship Jehovah more fully?"
I used to think that the powers that be in this organization don't get it. The more I look at though, I'm becoming convinced that they get it, all too well. The reality is that many if not most JWs don't want to go out in field service either from fear, or hatred. Can you imagine if the WT did away with field service slips and publishers having to turn in their time? 80% of JWs would cease door to door overnight. Consider the publication Bearing Thorough Witness which focuses on the book of Acts. The use of this kind of material for the Congregation Bible Study formerly the Book Study, is unprecedented. This book is all about making the case for the need to go out in field service. The subjects in this book are more suited for the Service Meeting, as opposed to the Theocratic Ministry School, but I guess the ends justify the means. They, as in the WT, are doing all that they can to encourage people to go out in field service. They know plenty of JWs don't want to go out in field service, so they're pulling all the stops on everything from encouraging, to discounted coupon months for auxilliary pioneering.
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Inviting djeggnog to discuss the blood doctrine
by jgnat indjeggnog invited me to start a new thread about the blood doctrine, which i am happy to do here.
his objection was my statement,.
"i've seen the blood video, a deceiving mix of scripture, fearmongering and pseudoscience, with plenty of lab coats in view.
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I don't know how much more can be bled out of this thread.....get it? Bled out? Yeah yeah, I know....
Seriously though, this thread should be moved into the "Best Of" section. I can't speak for everyone, but I'm sure enough lurkers appreciated the real detailed discussion of this topic. I know I did. As a born-in, I never really questioned anything from the WT until recent years. As a relatively healthy young man, I've never treated this subject with the seriousness that it demands. I'm more convinced than ever that the WT got this one wrong, unfortunately..... dead wrong, no pun intended. Its nice to see the detailed other side of the argument. Rest assured, the intelligent reasoning found within this thread from both sides will never be found within a WT magazine.
Regardless of your view on this subject, I feel its appropriate to say thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread from TD, to Mary, to Eggnogg, and everyone else. This was, and since its not over yet, is a very good thread.
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Will Jehovah resurrect Elizabeth Taylor? If so, will former king, David kill over her?
by miseryloveselders inso it goes in life...........
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miseryloveselders
So it goes in life..........
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miseryloveselders
He's with Ynot.
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Inviting djeggnog to discuss the blood doctrine
by jgnat indjeggnog invited me to start a new thread about the blood doctrine, which i am happy to do here.
his objection was my statement,.
"i've seen the blood video, a deceiving mix of scripture, fearmongering and pseudoscience, with plenty of lab coats in view.
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I have some questions about the balance of what you've said, but I'd like to preface them by saying that when a JW tells me that blood is sacred, they're preaching to the choir. I think blood is sacred too.
To me though, it doesn't necessarily follow that the sacredness of blood is profaned or desecrated when it is performing the function that God designed it to do in the first place. (Circulating in the arteries and veins)
I have to agree with JustInFromBethel, that was a heluva post TD. Ether.... By the way something I've been thinking about since following this thread is, the Law's stipulations regarding blood were dealing with the blood of animals, not humans. Its got me wondering if this debate is a lot more simple than we're actually treating it. We're arguing over the use of blood being transfused from one human to another human. The Law's intent was regarding the blood of an animal being consumed by a human as food/drink. That being said, for a Christian to not be obligated to follow the Law, and not consuming the blood of an animal, what is there to debate about at that point?
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wheres Yknot
by im stuck in ini haven't seen yknot here lately does anyone know whats up?
i have enjoyed the posts very much.
stuck in.
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miseryloveselders
I hope they didn't get her. She was leaking some pretty significant material, probably ticked off more than a handful of folks at the branches.
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LIBYAN CIVILIANS BEING KILLED BY US AIRSTRIKES
by NeckBeard inhttp://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2011/03/20/libyan-tv-claims-48-killed-us-european-attacks.html.
http://www.trust.org/alertnet/news/number-of-libyans-killed-by-western-air-strikes-rises-to-64-afte/.
should obama be tried as a war criminal for crimes against humanity?.
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miseryloveselders
must be cute a lot then.
Well yeah, but the argument be made you're just doing what your gender does......
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LIBYAN CIVILIANS BEING KILLED BY US AIRSTRIKES
by NeckBeard inhttp://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2011/03/20/libyan-tv-claims-48-killed-us-european-attacks.html.
http://www.trust.org/alertnet/news/number-of-libyans-killed-by-western-air-strikes-rises-to-64-afte/.
should obama be tried as a war criminal for crimes against humanity?.
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miseryloveselders
Tammy, you know you're cute when you're disaggreeable.
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LIBYAN CIVILIANS BEING KILLED BY US AIRSTRIKES
by NeckBeard inhttp://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2011/03/20/libyan-tv-claims-48-killed-us-european-attacks.html.
http://www.trust.org/alertnet/news/number-of-libyans-killed-by-western-air-strikes-rises-to-64-afte/.
should obama be tried as a war criminal for crimes against humanity?.
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miseryloveselders
Considering all that's happened with Libya and the US................is Obama still an undercover Muslim Commy? Was his giving the thumbs up on attacking Libya sufficient enough proof that he's not a Muslim Commy?