my family knows that i post on this forum (they have a packet of print outs of topics i have started) and they know about my videos on youtube.. they have made a demand that i cease all internet communication with the apostate community and then they will have me back.. i have refused.. they say i am a narcissist because i am ignoring the feelings of my family because they are very hurt by the things i am doing on the internet and speaking out against the religion.. interesting since they had to search out my posts and videos to gather evidence of apostasy.. -sab.
You know Debator you just completely ignored the emotional and stressful aspect of what people are dealing with in questioning this religion. I'm kind of at a loss for words at how cold you are.
Ya know something Isaacaustin, have your way with her. Rip her apart bruh. She just arghhh, ugghghh. It amazes me how callous these people are and it shouldn't, but arghhhh.
i've got a guilty pleasure, i enjoy watching the great white sharks sneak up on seals and ducks and all those teeth ripping flesh.
they are beautiful creatures.
those huge bodies flying through the air with a seal in their mouth smashing back down into the water.
Good catch Syl!!! It was an Impala. It was fascinating, I wish I could find the vid on youtube, it was crazy. With one twist this poor animal with his hood still in his antler, the Croc just ripped it inside out. It was amazing that he has that kind of power from spinning.
i've got a guilty pleasure, i enjoy watching the great white sharks sneak up on seals and ducks and all those teeth ripping flesh.
they are beautiful creatures.
those huge bodies flying through the air with a seal in their mouth smashing back down into the water.
I've got a guilty pleasure, I enjoy watching the Great White Sharks sneak up on seals and ducks and all those teeth ripping flesh. They are beautiful creatures. Those huge bodies flying through the air with a seal in their mouth smashing back down into the water. Last night on Nat Geo they showed this Croc attack a Malibu. The Malibu actually almost got away, but his hoof got caught in his own antlers and he couldn't run as a result. The Croc grabbed him by the abdomen and pulled him deeper into the water. Then the real fun began. The other Crocs came to get a piece of the action, all the while this poor Malibu was still alive with his hoof still stuck in his antler. Then this massive King Croc as they call him came, and all the other crocs closed their mouths as the King Croc always gets first dibs. He grabbed the poor Malibu and he twisted only one time, and with that death roll, the Malibu looked like meat you get at the grocery store. All that powerf!!! Crazy!!! This morning I was treated to this lovely picture that my boy sent me in an email.
http://jalopnik.com/5675536/yes-thats-a-bear-chasing-a-half+mauled-bison-down-a-yellowstone-road link for the story
That is a heck of a picture. I don't know what I would have done if that had been me driving. Crazy picture though. That bear looks mean and determined. Like he's avenging his brother's death or something.
Let me ask you guys and gals though, do you like watching the hunt too? Or is it too much for you?
i've never celebrated halloween but i know what candy i would have wanted.
hershey bars, reese's cups, peppermint patties.. the worst for me would be mary janes, squirrels, any maple flavoured candies.
sometimes the expensive, exotic candies are the worst!
I'm a huge sucker for Kit Kat bars. Love em. Kit Kat bars with milk or beer are to die for!!! The women at my job bought me some kit kat bars. I love that they care about me.
my family knows that i post on this forum (they have a packet of print outs of topics i have started) and they know about my videos on youtube.. they have made a demand that i cease all internet communication with the apostate community and then they will have me back.. i have refused.. they say i am a narcissist because i am ignoring the feelings of my family because they are very hurt by the things i am doing on the internet and speaking out against the religion.. interesting since they had to search out my posts and videos to gather evidence of apostasy.. -sab.
Debator, you know I like having you around, but your thinking of the flip side of the coin when it comes to JWs "offering their religion as the true faith" as you put it.
My mother knows about the views I've been developing as of late regarding this religion. You know what she told me? "If you leave the truth, I'm through with you." Thats my mother who told me that. I'm an adult living on my own so I can deal with it. You know how many have had to fair worse? Have you read the horror stories on here Debator? All of this family trauma because an individual doesn't believe in what the WT presents itself as or doesn't agree with a doctrine or doctrines. At the very least this causes strain in the family, and at its worst it causes a family to break apart. All because the WT just can't accept that someone or some groups might look at the same information they have access to, and come to a different conclusion than the GB. Its not right Debator, its unfair.
have you ever wondered why jehovah's witnesses can't get baptized by their bible study conductor in their private pool?
or why they don't get baptized at their local kingdom halls?
why do they "make a public declaration" before thousands?.
I'm sure there is an offical JW answer to this and why it is "bible-based."
-Sab
LOL, they have an answer for everything. Thats part of their problem.
have you ever wondered why jehovah's witnesses can't get baptized by their bible study conductor in their private pool?
or why they don't get baptized at their local kingdom halls?
why do they "make a public declaration" before thousands?.
Hey Mad, this is a good topic. I never really considered it before but what your saying I agree with. When Jesus got baptized, other than John who else was there besides the two of them? I can't recall but is there any biblicle record of His disciples getting baptized? If so, what were the circumstances? The Ethiopian Eunuch that got baptized, if I recall correctly only Phillip and maybe the Eunuch's attendant or attendants were there right? At Pentecost a few thousand got baptized, but that was a major event with a purpose behind it that had nothing to do with people doing it publically for the sake of having witnesses.
The only reason I could see other than what you've stated already Mad, is maybe the convenience of doing it at an assembly or a convention. Plus being that we have conventions and assemblies every so many months, maybe it gives studies time to think things over before taking that dip. Me personally, I'm a private person, and have never been fond of assemblies, conventions, and lately I'm disgusted at meetings. If I had the chance of doing it over I would rather have my baptism be a private, solemn affair. The same as my prayers.
I guess what else can we expect from a religion that is all about appearances. This religion under Rutherford had the sole purpose of irritating people for publicity, and since then its been an organization thats all about patting itself on the back, criticizing any other belief systems, and worshipping the GB. To choose worship in a quiet, dignifying manner would bring suspicion upon that individual. You can't leave the religion quietly, the same as you can't join quietly. Its like a prison gang almost. Blood in, blood out.
I love Outlaw too. Here's my dedication to Outlaw......... For you buddy, some eye candy.
We all do it. But why? The reason is that stereotyping is a basic cognitive strategy of simplifying what really is enormously complex (variability in human society) into simple, neat ideological categories. Once we think of people in terms of basic categories (men, women, whites, blacks, teens, hicks, window-washers, JWs), then it is a simple step to attribute to any individual any traits or practices or attitudes that pertain to the category. This is particularly useful when the group is one which one has little contact or interaction with; such a person would then depend more on stereotypes or presuppositions about the social category to build expectations (from whence comes prejudgement, i.e. prejudice). We all do it because we desperately needed to do this when we were children. Children are less able to comprehend and navigate the enormous complexity there is in society. Hence kids gravitate strongly to stereotypes in order to predict the world (which reduces anxiety about unfamiliar people and situations). As adults, we should be more aware of the times when we lapse back into this kind of thinking, or at least prod ourselves to view people as individuals and not members of pre-defined categories, and to view the categories themselves as socially constructed and heterogenous (rather than as monolithic and homogenous).
I'm cured!
i had the misery recently of attending the sad.. the bethel speaker looked and sounded like the usual corporate businessman after your money.. during his main talk, he praised a recent bethel member who left his college (aka university) course early to pioneer and join bethel.. that followed experiences from window cleaners, unemployed, parents home-schooling (aka child abuse - it is a basic human right to be educated) their kids and those baptised as children (youngest was 10).. the brainwashed dubs applauded every ruined life paraded on the platform.. these bethel speakers have been around long enough to know exactly what they're doing - they are evil men, ruining peoples' lives, breaking up families and masquerading as holy men.. their time will come when they face god - too late for the many ruined by their filthy lies and false hopes.. sorry to sound bitter, but to my shame i had a part in this cult as an elder.
what part of my brain did i lose to not see through this rubbish?.
better late then never though.
Looking at this nowadays, what they're promoting from the platform is dangerous. Its one thing to highlight the decision of some to pioneer, or apply for Bethel, etc.. Its another thing entirely to promote those goals, and at the same time enforce a negative view towards those not pursuing the same goals. They put tremendous pressure on young people via their literature thats reviewed quite regularly at meetings. They also do this crap from the assemblies. Some of these wacky parents hear this stuff from the platform and think God has spoken. Its not right to dictate that kind of authority over people's lives. I've said it in the past but for some die hard believers I think its child abuse for them to be able to raise children.
