my wife and i recently heard about two couples we know who switched partners in the past.
we then got to talking about a different couple we ate dinner with a while back who i thought gave off the vibe of wanting to swing.
my wife said she got that vibe too... thus the question: how common is this in wt-land?.
I only knew of one case and it was in my So. California congregation. Two Elders, a MS and their wives were all DF'd.
But, sex and drug parties were almost common place.
Over 20 kids were DF'd in the Victorville, Ca area in the late 1980's for drug and sex parties, plus prostitution.
Later in Flagstaff, Az. where I moved, another large bunch of kids got nailed for drugs and sex parties.
Probably few in these areas know about that past, but at the time, it was real big news.
i have a lot of memories of attending assemblies there for 30 years.
does anyone remember all the purple coloring?
remember that guy who used to wave a stick like he was conducting an orchestra except there was no orchestra, only a guy playing the piano and the audience singing?.
I went to Monroe and lived near it....but now am in Arizona.
i was taking a stab at writing a wt style headline, so pardon the rhetoric.. anyway, the wife's sister has been a full-on jw and a pioneer since high-school.
her husband is 6-7 years younger than she is.
he was tapped at 25 or so y/o to be an elder, and is a frighteningly serious jw.
As to the WT's view?
The WT didn't really committ for or against, always saying it was the parents decision. But........
Many in the congregations would talk in a disparaging way about us making such a poor decision in wanting to adopt when we are so close to the new order. (I was a Pioneering Elder at the time and taught at the Pioneer School) We adopted our girl in 1991, we are now in our 50's.
If we followed the mature reasoning of that day, we would not have had a lovely daughter to share our lives with.
But it was that talk that lead to our leaving the WT. The talk became so bad that few in our KH would accept her, to the point of treating this 1-2 year old poorly. And these were the Elders, Pioneers, the supposed strong ones. An Elder even used the scripture with me, that in Israel, a bastard child was not to be accepted. (He is now a CO)
Bringing it up with our then current CO, and how discouraged we were, he acknowledged the talk was true, but we should not hold it against them, as they meant well. Ugh!
In the end, all went well, as this episode opened our eyes to the fallacy that this is God's loving organization. We raised our daughter out of it and she is a very nice young lady who is starting college soon.
I asked her recently if she had any recollection of the KH? She said very little, but that the meetings were very boring and people were so mean to her.
i was taking a stab at writing a wt style headline, so pardon the rhetoric.. anyway, the wife's sister has been a full-on jw and a pioneer since high-school.
her husband is 6-7 years younger than she is.
he was tapped at 25 or so y/o to be an elder, and is a frighteningly serious jw.
Hey there Minister Amos,
We adopted as JW's and yes, there is some concern from the government officials, but they can not discriminate over religion, etc...Knowing what I know now, I would not want to place a child in a JW home.
Most of the concern we saw was over cultural differences. A white family having a black child or a Native American child being placed in a non-Native American home.
just curious if the message is the same or anything extra in it.
i'll eventually read it to decide if i think it's in agreement and inspired.
to those who say no books would be added after revelation, i say read that scripture again, it's for the book of revelation itself.
TD - Thanks for sharing your info.
Living part-time in Utah, and having some Mormon family has always peeked my interest about them.
I've always felt like L Ron's Hubbards book compared well to the Book of Mormon. A fantasy book that grew into a religion. It seems obvious that they were written as fantasy, but am amazed as to how many people really believe it to be true, even when proven otherwise.
I've never had the priviledge to be DF'd. But I congratulate you! You are now qualified to enjoy life to the fullest!
i'm trying to impress upon my sister the damage this cult has inflicted on our lives.
it really affected the decisions i made.
i'm a nurse but i never really wanted to be one.
I wanted to follow a college scholarship for basketball and then get a teaching degree. Then write murder/comedy/mysteries in my spare time.
And on the weekends, become a CIA hitman.
i love psychedelic music.
some of my favorites include the beatles' "blue jay way", .
the beastie boys' "namaste",.
In-a-gadda-da-vida - Iron Butterfly
we all remember 2008 ,that was the year this discussion forum came close to shutting down.
simon green and his wife angie are our guests on the call.
they are the founders and administrators of perhaps the largest critical site of the watchtower ( jwn discussion board) simon tells the callers that he is shutting the board down for posters.
Where would I be without this site? I shudder to think...
if you follow the current nonsense being taught by the society, in its latest magazines and assembly parts, there seems to be a dominant theme about near worship of the "faithful slave" and tiresome nagging about 'obey, obey, obey'.. my unanswered question is: why?.
if they were the empire in star wars, i would expect to hear dark-robed members of the evil governing body muttering about " a disturbance in the force".. anyhow, what has changed to generate this sudden demand for obedience to their supposed authority?
some years ago, they panicked after contributions collapsed in the 'voluntary donation arrangement'.
What the GB needs to do is pray more, study more, attend more meetings, and share more in service. Then everything will be fine....
