most christians assume that the gift of salvation is free.. but gods promises are very conditional and the word "if" is used nearly 1600times in the bible.. the bible is an "iffy" book and the promises of god very conditional.. i would be interested in a christian perspective as to why they think salvation is a free gift-.
acolytes.
BTS
What does Jesus command?
If you keep my commandments you will remain in my love..................................
And it must be freely accepted.
I must say it sounds very much like the watchtowers stance on love. (Would you ever command someone to love you)
Acolytes
i have concluded that elders are people who take it as their right to torture any baptised member of the congregation who will not conform to their standards.. why do i say this?.
basically i think they see anyone who does not live up to their standards as a threat in which they risk exposure to fealings they would rather die than face.
(the irony they pride themselfs in thinking they are in the "truth").
Hi Quirky 1 and Outlaw.
"Elders are janitors with a golden broom" This joke is the closest I will have to sympathy with an elder.This joke presents them as men beset by circumstances.It helps restore their equilibrium by presenting them as almost humun.
Acolytes
most christians assume that the gift of salvation is free.. but gods promises are very conditional and the word "if" is used nearly 1600times in the bible.. the bible is an "iffy" book and the promises of god very conditional.. i would be interested in a christian perspective as to why they think salvation is a free gift-.
acolytes.
Quirky 1
The God of the humun imagination, but beliving very much in the imagination I oftern think What God?
Acolytes
i have concluded that elders are people who take it as their right to torture any baptised member of the congregation who will not conform to their standards.. why do i say this?.
basically i think they see anyone who does not live up to their standards as a threat in which they risk exposure to fealings they would rather die than face.
(the irony they pride themselfs in thinking they are in the "truth").
Farkel
Is that a fanatical badge worn with honour?
most christians assume that the gift of salvation is free.. but gods promises are very conditional and the word "if" is used nearly 1600times in the bible.. the bible is an "iffy" book and the promises of god very conditional.. i would be interested in a christian perspective as to why they think salvation is a free gift-.
acolytes.
Deputy Dog
Faith may be a free gift. But the Bible says proove all things.1 Thessalonians 5:21 "Proove all things hold fast to what is good"
It may luck faith but I think it is better to proove all things.
Acolytes
i have concluded that elders are people who take it as their right to torture any baptised member of the congregation who will not conform to their standards.. why do i say this?.
basically i think they see anyone who does not live up to their standards as a threat in which they risk exposure to fealings they would rather die than face.
(the irony they pride themselfs in thinking they are in the "truth").
Now this would make a great book-Big Bad Wolves is a stunning and provocative and highly entertaining account of how the Jehovers Witnesses governing body myth making factory has created the image of the indomitable male, and in the process shaped and distorted our understanding of the spiritual man. This larger than life male is the congregation Elder.
Acolytes
during the dark days of the second world war , the monsters that ran a concentration camp decided to hang a child.. they hung the poor little chap so that it took half an hour for him to die, all the while making the other inmates look into the face of the child.. where was your god then ?
was he not strong enough to do anything or did he just not care ?.
if the first then he is a very weak god, if the second then,.
I oftern wonderd how a Jew who had lost his mum dad wife and kids to the Holocaust could be expected to convert to Christianality.Lets not forget many purportraters of Holocaust attended Christian churches-
Acolytes
during the dark days of the second world war , the monsters that ran a concentration camp decided to hang a child.. they hung the poor little chap so that it took half an hour for him to die, all the while making the other inmates look into the face of the child.. where was your god then ?
was he not strong enough to do anything or did he just not care ?.
if the first then he is a very weak god, if the second then,.
According to the Bible if a person has the power to stop evil he must do it.
Therefore I blame God for the Holocaust.
Acolytes.
in one sentence, can you define what the real "truth" is?
not the watchtower version (we all know what that is)..
Truth is something we are only capable of demeaning by thinking we have it-
Truth is the false thinking of people.
Acolytes
i have concluded that elders are people who take it as their right to torture any baptised member of the congregation who will not conform to their standards.. why do i say this?.
basically i think they see anyone who does not live up to their standards as a threat in which they risk exposure to fealings they would rather die than face.
(the irony they pride themselfs in thinking they are in the "truth").
Mad Sweeney
If the governing body cared about others as much as they do about themselfs this board might not exist. I think this board is made up of victims.
If a person is a true victim of a repressive organisation with a humane heart they can rouse themselfs sufficiently to reclaim their integrity .
Simply put elders see and when they see injustice and lies they stand for truth and justice and COMPASSION.
Acolytes
