Posts by acolytes

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Being responsible for your behaviour

by Luo bou to in

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i make excuses for my ex and witness relatives telling myself that they're not responsible because they are under mind controll.

but is that good enough.

can treating someone as if they don't exist be excused ?

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lou bou to (how did you come up with that name?)......You said" Good point Acolytes. Even so I doubt that you would be deliberatly rude to people you choose not to asociate with when you met them in the street like so many witnesses do"

My answer is yes i would... And iam glad for it ... One case was a lady whose husband gave me the creeps. I said to my wife do not speak to her( She was with her creepy husband) My wife has a mind of her own and did... Ressult she agreed to see the lady for a social at ladies house. Result her husband came home was drunk and violent, the lady also turned out a little strange......my wife got off light. This man was later convicted for having killed 2 old people.

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What crisis will set the W.T on a new path?

by acolytes in

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or what are the forces of inertia that keep jehovers witnesses from changing?.

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Farkel....great comment.

On previouse posts i have attacked your way of corresponding with other posters. Thats because i have learnt to much from you to ignor you.(Besides your red hair,big ears and tounge sticking out what do you expect)

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What crisis will set the W.T on a new path?

by acolytes in

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or what are the forces of inertia that keep jehovers witnesses from changing?.

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Yadda Yadda... I think the core teachings such as trinity, no immortal soul ect will not set the witnesses on a new path any more than the failure of the 1914doctrine (its not important)

In sales only 7% of the sale is dependent on the words discribing the product.

I believe the watchtower product is not the doctrine.

I started this thread to find an answer to my question "What crisis will set the W.T on a new path?" and i think the answer is a % of many points. Iam now convinced individuals (apostates) make up that %.

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Being responsible for your behaviour

by Luo bou to in

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friends

i make excuses for my ex and witness relatives telling myself that they're not responsible because they are under mind controll.

but is that good enough.

can treating someone as if they don't exist be excused ?

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Lou Bou to .Wow.... now thats a question, WHY DO PEOPLE SHUN, is it fear. mental ect ect.

The best way to answer this question is "Why do You Shun?"

I shun people that are bad association to me or my family, as i dont want them in my life. Do i refuse all communication with them, in some cases yes. For example i avoid all contact with some posters on this board.I shun some old friends and will never have communication with them again.

People delete friends from facebook.Why? They have reasons.

I think its a question of being responsible for our behaviour, NOT allowing an organisation to dictate who we shun.

Interesting being shunned by ex-friends on a personal level always saddend me, but i could accept and respect it.When a witness shunned me it made me angry.

I must say and i think iam lucky with this (I wasnt born in to the witnesses "Blush blush") but most of my witness friends havnt shunned me. Infact oftern they have been the ones to initiate a conversation when we meet on the street.

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I think an elder has sussed me out as an apostate. :-S

by slimboyfat in

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an elder phoned me up the other day to see how i was.

he does this every couple of months, as part of his shepherding routine i suppose.

(at least this elder takes shepherding seriously) i have not been to a meeting for a few months.

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Hi slimboyfat....only 7% of spoken communication is comprehended by the words that are actually spoken. My guess is maybe subconciosly your tone of voice gave you away.

I once had a telephone conversation with an elder (He was from another congregation and didnt no of my then fade) he only rang to ask for a broachure. I was amazed how despite saying nothing negative about the organisation, he could tell i was no longer interested in the watchtower. He bought the conversation to a premature close. This made me realise how much of a cult and how strong the watchtower mind-control is.

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God Seemed to Write This For Those Disfewllowshipped but Love Him

by Perry in

if you ever felt that you really did love god, but no matter what you did, ended up on the outs with your family and with the watchtower anyway..... these words have comforted me.. .

66. thus saith the lord, the heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me?

and where is the place of my rest?

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Bro Brown....you say "on another note, it is interesting to me when unbelivers GET MAD for being called unbelivers"

A. are you calling me a unbeliver based on this comment i made tp Perry.? " Why do you say iam unbeliver (That statement was a little judgemental and can only be proven through my personal exsperience)

B. Do you think in my above statement to Perry i was getting MAD?

You then presume to have absolute knowledge what an unbeliver is with your statement "If you dont belive in the God of the bible, then you are an unbeliver in regard to the god of the bible. THATS IT.

With your comment "THATS IT" I have to assume you are not interested in debating your viewpoint. Such thinking is like "Do you accept the watchtower is jehovers organisation"

I have made the above comments too you because on this and other of my posts you have read into my words things I didnt say and thoughts i never had. Take care.

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Why Women Love Jerks

by compound complex in

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do nice guys lose to bad boys?.

[see advert.

i'm afraid to look ...].

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When a girl didnt fancy me THE "Why women love jerks" always sat comfortably with me.

Truth is there were always a thosand good reasons why. And calling the other guy a "Jerk"answerd my insecurity.

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Did you ever know of a elder wanting montary comp for doing a sheparding visit?

by highdose in

i knew an elder who would help and support those in the cong, but in return he expected some kind of compensation such as: goods brought for him or his family, services given for free etc.. this elder had a working class job but lived a very middle class life style because of this unspoken arrangement.

great holidays, new cars and his wife was very much the queen bee of the cong.

hardly wore the same thing twice and delighted in patronising the other sisters who she considered beaneath her.

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Never.... they only wanted my heart,mind and soul....I didnt realise they had redeeming qualities i wasnt aware of. (God bless them)

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What prayers does God answer?

by jwfacts in

i have always struggled to understand what prayers god answers and which ones he avoids.

most religions teach that god answers prayers, so people must feel that their prayers are being answered, yet the type of prayers seem to be very selective.. .

if god answered broad based prayers, then children in third world countries would not be starving, so he does not seem to interfere in global issues.

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Prodigal Son ..your reply resonates with love... It was also a little deep. I will read it in depth tonight,so thanks for tonights read

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God Seemed to Write This For Those Disfewllowshipped but Love Him

by Perry in

if you ever felt that you really did love god, but no matter what you did, ended up on the outs with your family and with the watchtower anyway..... these words have comforted me.. .

66. thus saith the lord, the heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me?

and where is the place of my rest?

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Perry...Why do you say iam a unbeliver? (That statement was a little judgemental and can only be proven through my personl experience)

Iam glad the words you provided from "god" have comforted you. (Disfellowshipping is something people need comfort from) iam glad other posters have found comfort from those words. Personlly those words arnt for me.

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