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  Face/Pyramids on Mars! What do you think?

  by qwerty in

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  the things you look into without the wt cynical mind behind every thought.. [ http://www.geocities.com/area51/6683/cydonia-face.html].

  qwerty .

  justa surfin!

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  JanH

  This is STILL a mystery, Alan.

  
  Were you and YouKnow separated at birth, Tally?

  I read your rants about the UFO-cults' conspiracy theories, and then I read YouKnow's LaRouchian fantasies about the British Oligarchy conspiracies. It is not hard to note the similarities.

  The main simliarity, of course, is the lack of ability -- or desire -- to examine issues rationally.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  WHY THE WORLD IS DOOMED

  by You Know in

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  in referring to the preflood world, peter said that the heavens and the earth had been stored up with water, and that by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water.

  the christian prophet went on to say: "by the same word, the heavens and the earth that are now stored up for fire and are being reserved to the day of the judgment and of the destruction of ungodly men.

  in furtherance of highlighting the apostate's blasphemy that jehovah is going to come streaking out of the clear blue sky one fine day and slaughter billions of innocents while they sleep in their beds, the apostle's brief comments on the topic of jehovah's judgments contains some interesting insights.

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  JanH

  YK,

  It is pretty obvious who is telling the lie.

  Can you point to a single sentence or paragraph in your above rant that forms even the crudest deductive argument? Do you even know what that is?

  All you have posted is a mixture of threats, personal attacks and bold assertions. There simply are no arguments there.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  WHY THE WORLD IS DOOMED

  by You Know in

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  in referring to the preflood world, peter said that the heavens and the earth had been stored up with water, and that by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water.

  the christian prophet went on to say: "by the same word, the heavens and the earth that are now stored up for fire and are being reserved to the day of the judgment and of the destruction of ungodly men.

  in furtherance of highlighting the apostate's blasphemy that jehovah is going to come streaking out of the clear blue sky one fine day and slaughter billions of innocents while they sleep in their beds, the apostle's brief comments on the topic of jehovah's judgments contains some interesting insights.

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  JanH

  YK,

  You don't have the faintest idea what the word "prove" means. What you posted was a fantasy, devoid of any logical arguments supporting your assertion.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  WHY THE WORLD IS DOOMED

  by You Know in

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  in referring to the preflood world, peter said that the heavens and the earth had been stored up with water, and that by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water.

  the christian prophet went on to say: "by the same word, the heavens and the earth that are now stored up for fire and are being reserved to the day of the judgment and of the destruction of ungodly men.

  in furtherance of highlighting the apostate's blasphemy that jehovah is going to come streaking out of the clear blue sky one fine day and slaughter billions of innocents while they sleep in their beds, the apostle's brief comments on the topic of jehovah's judgments contains some interesting insights.

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  JanH

  YK,
  

  Any day now

  
  We should all be thankful every time we see a doom & gloom prediction from you. Your prophecy about coming doom is the best indicator ever on continued progress. Like your masters in Brooklyn, you are a perfect up-side-down compass to world events.

  Here's something you posted to H2O September 02, 1998:
  

  A few more weeks, a couple of months, should bring significant developments; perhaps not the biblical tribulation, but certainly the present system is going to be shaken in a way that it never has before.

  
  And when I gave you some well-deserved ridicule for this, you promised:
  

  If I am wrong on this one, I promise to join 'Pronosticators Anonymous.'

  
  Of course, you lied.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  Homosexuals and Evolution

  by patio34 in

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  on monday past, the la times health section had an article on homosexuality, especially the traits visible in young toddlers.

  it also delved into possible causes of homosexuality and the latest research and theories.. there was an interesting comment in the article something like "it's a peculiarity in evolution that homosexuality occurs because it precludes procreation.

  " in evolution, whoever produces the most offspring are the ones who pass on their genes.

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  JanH

  The answer is, I think, much to do with how complicated our genes are, and how complex the relationship is between geontype and pheonotype (ie organism). The DNA is not a blueprint to the organism, it is a description of a number of processes that will, in the right environment, lead to the production of this organism. So the idea we should have some specific "gay gene" is, I think, quite unlikely. As others have pointed out, such a gene would be selected against in the wild.

  It is worth noting that we receive genes equally from both our parents. Females carry all the genes for how to produce a male and vice versa. It is equally probable a man has inherited his genes for penis size and shape from his mother as from his father.

  Also, our sexual attraction is to some degree a result of social processes. Our sex drive is obviously genetic, but what and who we are attracted to may well be the result mostly of social conditioning.

  Finally, the physical differences between sexes are not that significant. The traits a heterosexual finds sexually attractive in the other sex, may well be prevalent also in his or her own. Such a person could, given the right social circumstances, end up being attracted mostly to his or her own sex.

  In my view, homosexuality simply represents one side of the range of human sexuality. Heterosexual men, for example, are attracted to a range of female body types. I don't see a very distinct line to cross from being attracted to same sex. Obviously, in cultures such as ours, which frowns on homosexuality, people feel that way. But that is social conditioning. Some cultures consider homosexuality for what it actually is: one part of the range of normal human sexuality.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  Dreams: Portals to the Afterlife?

  by Mulan in

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  now this is a neat subject!!

  i am a genealogy freak, and have researched my family back to the middle ages and beyond, on both sides.

  i so much want to know about them, and what they looked like, and how they lived, that i have dreamed it.

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  JanH

  "Most dreams come to us through the gates of ivory, and they lie to us. Some dreams come to us through the gates of horn, and they speak to us truly."

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  Which is the best translation of the bible...

  by TheApostleAK in

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  50 years ago respected textual critic ernest cadman colwell created an apparatus of 64 scriptures to determine which is the best new testament.

  i created a chart using the same criteria...and the results will surprise you!!.

  http://hector3000.future.easyspace.com/colwell.htm .

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  JanH

  Iggy,
  

  JanH why do the Jews want to kill Jesus after Jhn 8:58 if he was not making himself out to be the "I am" of the Old Testament or at least equal to God.

  
  I can't cease to marvel at the touching faith trinitarians have in the rationality of Jewish mobs.

  Did Stephen also claim to be the "I am" of the OT? Or did the sentiments of Jewish mobs suddenly change?

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  Which is the best translation of the bible...

  by TheApostleAK in

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  50 years ago respected textual critic ernest cadman colwell created an apparatus of 64 scriptures to determine which is the best new testament.

  i created a chart using the same criteria...and the results will surprise you!!.

  http://hector3000.future.easyspace.com/colwell.htm .

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  JanH

  dshields,
  

  Simply this, the scripture is an example of Christ claiming deity, something that no Jew would ever do under pain of death.

  
  Sorry, I cannot agree.

  On John 8:58, I totally agree with the NWT as it stands. The trinitarian "before Abraham was, I Am" is a pretty ridiculous rendering. It is not even a meaningful sentence in English. It is a good rule of translation that the sentence should at least make sense syntactically in the target language. The context also show that Jesus was claiming to have existed before Abraham, not to be the "I am".

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  Which is the best translation of the bible...

  by TheApostleAK in

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  50 years ago respected textual critic ernest cadman colwell created an apparatus of 64 scriptures to determine which is the best new testament.

  i created a chart using the same criteria...and the results will surprise you!!.

  http://hector3000.future.easyspace.com/colwell.htm .

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  JanH

  Francoise,
  

  The one that comports most comfortably with the beliefs you already hold.

  
  In that case, only a non-believer can truly evaluate the quality of Bible translations.

  After all, the Bible is irrelevant to our beliefs, so we are only interested in what it has to say as an historical document. And any historian will just want his sources to be as accurate as possible.

  - Jan
  --
  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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  The Natural Law fallacy and Homosexuality

  by JanH in

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  there is a fallacy of logic that is so common that few people realize that it is, indeed, a fallacy of logic: the fallacy by appeal to nature.. one argument against homosexuality goes something like this:.

  the natural use of the reproductive organs is obviously to make children.

  using these organs in a way that cannot produce children is unnatural and thus ethically wrong.. .

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  Yerusalyim,
  

  You said something to the effect that if some one rejected your sexuality they rejected you. If someone rejects my alcoholism and in love tries to show me the error of my ways, does that mean they are rejecting me? I don't think so.

  You cannot compare the two.

  If someone rejects my eating habits, the way I dress, talk, believe, or whatever, that is pretty insignificant issues that I can handle.

  However, if someone actually seriously argued that my love for my woman made my an unclean, immoral person, someone who was less worthy for life or whatever than them, I could not have them as a friend, and I would not at all respect these people. Such a person would reject something at the very core of my identity. If you seriously believed that this made me equal to a murderer, as you say the Bible does about gay people, then I would not be impressed by the hollow "hate the sin, love the sinner" slogan of fundamentalist Christians.

  Were I gay, I would surely feel the same.

  On another note: I note with some satisfaction that the multi-identity troll fucked up its names in the end, as I expected it would. Well spotted, Wendy.

  - Jan
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  Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]