As others pointed out, it is easy to see why there seems to be two kinds of morality. One seems relativistic and the other is absolute. The absolute would imply that their needs to be a source of authority which for the theist (and I assume you mean Christian) would be G-d. However, the Christian paints himself into a corner (often unknowingly) when he states that without G-d he would be a sinner. Considering that the true test of character is whether or not you would do the right thing even when no one is watching, this assertion says little about that person's character.
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Theists - Why does Morality require the existence of God?
by cantleave in"without god in your life, you cannot have a moral compass",,,, please explain to me why you think that should be so?
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My Letter to Brooklyn about the Parousia that got me disfellowshipped
by cofty inthis is the letter i wrote back in '96 about the parousia.
following the '95 watchtower that disconnected the "generation" from 1914 i began to look carefully at end-time prophecy and soon discovered what i knew were basic errors in what i had been taught.. i was a loyal jw at the time and was still serving as an elder.
i used only watchtower publications in my research.
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Well, um, thanks Lars.
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So apparently I'm now a Secular Humanist
by Oubliette ini was doing some research on the subject of beliefs and belief systems when i came across an on-line survey/test that supposedly helps you determine which religion or philosophy is most like your current beliefs.
if you're curious, you can take the quiz here: belief system selector quizafter answering the 20 questions the results were spit out!
tada!!!.
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1. Orthodox Quaker - Religious Society of Friends (100%)
2. Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (81%)
3. Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (79%)
4. Liberal Quakers - Religious Society of Friends (76%)
5. Seventh Day Adventist (66%)
6. Unitarian Universalism (64%)
7. Taoism (59%)
8. Mahayana Buddhism (58%)
9. Reform Judaism (57%)
10. Eastern Orthodox (56%)
11. Roman Catholic (56%)
12. Theravada Buddhism (55%)
13. Hinduism (52%)
14. Sikhism (51%)
15. Neo-Pagan (48%)
16. Islam (46%)
17. Orthodox Judaism (44%)
18. Scientology (42%)
19. Bahai (40%)
20. Jainism (40%)
21. New Age (39%)
22. New Thought (39%)
23. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (38%)
24. Secular Humanism (36%)
25. Christian Science Church of Christ, Scientist (29%)
26. Jehovahs Witness (25%)
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My Son is studying the lie, this is long but I need help !
by oldflame inlisten, israel: the lord our god, the lord is one.
the lord our god, the lord is one.
jesus is god: .
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The Mark of The Wild Beast, How Does One Receive It? 666
by Este inthe first thing that needs to be determined is who or what is the wild beast ?......
estephan.
1and it stood still upon the sand of the sea.. and i saw a wild beast ascending out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, and upon its horns ten diadems, but upon its heads blasphemous names.2now the wild beast that i saw was like a leopard, but its feet were as those of a bear, and its mouth was as a lion's mouth.
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What?! You've never been an Independent Fundamental Baptist! Therefore, you cannot possibly know the correct interpretation of scripture. All that nonsense about war. The true mark of the beast is a barcode that has been stamped or tattoed on your right hand or forehead (old light) a microchip containing your identity that has been inserted in your right hand. This is because the ancient language depicts 666 to mean the same thing as 'to prick.' As in to prick this microchip in your right hand or forehead.
By the way, the wild beast whose mark you will be receiving is R-O-N-A-L-D W-I-L-S-O-N R-E-A-G-A-N because all three of his names has 6 letters (old light, because the man has now been dead for years) is a supercomputer in Belgium known as the B.E.A.S.T. (Belgian Electronic Accounting
Surveillance Terminal) which will have a complete record of every man, woman, and child on the planet. The numbers 666 means three sets of 6 numbers that will make each and every person's identity. -
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What Should Be The Attitude Toward Opposers Who Encourage Jehovah's Witnesses To Read Apostate Material?
by Bangalore inwhat should be the attitude toward opposers who encourage jehovah's witnesses to read apostate material?
here is a jw apologist's viewpoint.. .
http://defendingjehovahswitnesses.blogspot.com/2013/05/what-should-be-attitude-toward-opposers.html.
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garyneal
Wait a minute, I thought witnesses were not allowed to have their own websites defending their beliefs. Does the SLAVE approve of this?
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Mouthy Grace is not well. Please send love.
by return of parakeet inin another thread, mouthy said she was "not well" and mentioned "kicking the bucket.
i believe she needs some encouragement and well wishes.. mouthy, you don't need to respond to this thread if you don't feel up to it.
just consider it an exceptionally long get-well card..
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Get better soon Grace.
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Is the U.S. headed toward financial ruin? Your opinions please....
by tresdecu innot trying to sound like a conpiracy nut...but just read this article:.
http://www.moneynews.com/archives/trump-aftershock-american-economy/2012/11/06/id/462985?promo_code=103fc-1.
is this just a lot of talk?
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garyneal
I think the money system needs to be replaced. The only real benefactors now are the super rich, everyone else is just struggling now and falling behind. Something is going to give.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oBo8CJxatQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvKjsIxT_8
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Bachelor's Degree
by mamamo ini finally graduated with my bachelor's degree last saturday.
i really wish i hadn't taken as long as i did.
my high school graduation was 30 years ago.
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Congratulations! I hope you do find a better paying job. -- and look for one that has a pension.
In the states, your best bet is a government job if you need a pension. I will give this one to my dad, by the time he reaches retirement age he will have a pension from two jobs (the army and the prison system) plus his social security. All with no college degree to boot.
Me, I will be lucky if I have a decent sized 401k to live on and I have a BS in Engineering. My how times have changed.
At any rate, congrats on the degree, may it take you where you want to go.
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How much do you pay for your internet service?
by JH ina few years ago, i had dial up internet with netrover, and cost about 18$ a month, unlimited use.
but it was slow.. then i had videotron here in quebec, low speed internet (cable) for about 29$ a month which was about 3 to 4 times faster than dial up.
now i upgraded it to high speed for about 45$ a month plus tax of course.
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garyneal
About $40 per month. Got to give this one to my wife as she negotiated that price for the service we got. Otherwise, we'd be paying $52 / month for the same service. We have Cox cable Internet and no cable tv, we tried the bundled plan but it ended up costing us nearly $200 / month for it for many channels we do not watch. Netflix and over the air TV is all we watch now.