Posts by garyneal

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Post 607: Reject 607 BC if You TRULY Trust the Bible!!!

by Londo111 in

therefore, if the 70 years period is for the destruction of jerusalem and exile at babylon:.

if zedekiah had not rebelled against babylon, had he surrendered during the final siege that lasted two and a half years, then the destruction of jerusalem and the deportation need not have happened.

then in the jubilee year, they were set free and their hereditary land was returned to them.

garyneal

Scholar!!! Yoo hoo!!!

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Another sad non jw falling for a baptised jw girl story

by spirituk in

ok ,so this is my story , this jw girl came on vacation in my country as a friend of my girl-cousin who is not a jw but were classmates at uni .

my cousin introduced her to me but she didnt tell me that she was a jw from the very first moment we flirt each other.we went on beach ,on bars ,cafes etc and she acted so wordly ,in fact i thought she could be a good one night stand with her behaviour .never saw anything weird about her that could lead me to question something, with the peak in the club where we danced together while hugging very passionatly .

i tried to kiss her that night but she kept her distance , i didnt notice any bad on that.anyway, next day we flirt again at the the beach and at night too .

garyneal

problemaddict

I will just respond with *like*

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Im a non JW and i'm interested in a JW

by littlebigtown123 in

i'm interested in this girl and shes a jw.

i went to the meetings and i was bored out of my mind.

i can see how the religion is very appealing to people.

garyneal

Well, there you have it. The general concensus is to run.

I wasn't much older than you when I married my JW wife. When she and I was dating I remember a lot of peculiar things compared to the other girls that I dated. However, I dismissed a lot of it since I was an IFB and recall how we had very similar hang ups. But I was still surprised at how her own mom went and reported her to the elders due to our dating. How the elders threatened her mom that she would lose her privelege to pioneer because of our dating. How the other witnesses in the area were watching her and I when we were together, all under my nose. How her JW friends were treating her differently because of her dating me, and how her dad said that she was 'lowering her standards' because she was dating me. Most people I encounter at least gave me a chance and got to know me first before judging me to be a bad person.

If I had it to do all over again, I would certainly think twice about it. I am sorry to say but my overall experience with the witnesses has taught me that they are some of the most hypocritical people I have ever met. They judge you to be bad people because you are not in their little cult or because you celebrate the holidays. Meanwhile (at least as far as the witnesses I know are concerned) they want you to pay them money for any favors they do for you but won't offer a dime in return for anything you do for them (and they tend to ask a LOT from you). They won't vote or have anything at all to do with politics or the military (Satan's system) but are perfectly okay living off disability, social security, welfare, or a spouse's military pension (or their own if they were in the military in their 'former life') living off Satan's system.

During the early years of our marriage, I was astonished at some of her ways that was inculcated in her by this religion. Every year when she and I celebrated the holidays she would say things like, "I am going to die because of this, God is going to kill me for enjoying this." She equates celebrating the holidays to doing things like getting shit-faced drunk in the bars or committing heinous crimes. It is totally assinine. She did not feel comfortable taking our young daughter to soccer practice because her religion forbids it. When she and I went to a church together, she said that the demons were in the church.

It wasn't until I began learning more and more about this religion before I began to discover how dangerous this religion really is (and how equally dangerous other churches like the IFB churches were). Trust me, this girl's behavior that you are witnessing is a mere tip of the ice berg to the lunacy you will encounter if you continue to pursue a relationship with her. My wife and I have two kids together, read some of the topics I started on this board to get an idea of the struggles I encountered.

Here are some doozies:

Encouragement from my mother to my wife during the holidays.
What a witness may do if their non-JW spouse needs a blood transfusion.
When my wife wanted to throw a costume party 'near' Halloween.
My wife did not want to attend a company Christmas party with me.
Mother-in-law's WT reasoning concerning why an anniversary party is okay but a birthday party is not.
The book that will be read to your kids.
Our JW babysitter taught our oldest child that Super Why is bad because they use magic.
- This one still affects her to this day and REALLY shows their hypocrisy simply because they love the MAGIC kingdom and my wife's favorite Disney character is Tinkerbell (doesn't that chick have a wand?).

Still want to get involved with this chick?

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How old are you?

by sooner7nc in

jw
friends

post your age...only if you want to.

do it anyway.. i'm 42..

garyneal

See I am still the oldest aboard.... 86 next May 22nd. If I make it.If I dont I want you ALL to remember to post a memorial on here....

I want Mouthy to live forever.

41 here.

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This generation will by now means pass away..."

by Jewel in

jw
friends

i haven't been to a meeting (other than some cousins' weddings) for well over twenty years.

i've always wondered what the fds was going to do with the "generations" thing once pretty much everybody who had been alive in 1914 is gone.

i get that they've come up with some "new light" about this topic, but when i ask my mom (who's still in) i only get "well, the new understanding is complicated...".

garyneal

In effect He is saying that the generation which sees the specific signs, that is, the great tribulation, will also see the fulfillment of the second coming of Christ.

When I was an IFB, the preacher use to preach that this applied to the generation who saw Jerusalem become a nation again in 1948.

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This generation will by now means pass away..."

by Jewel in

jw
friends

i haven't been to a meeting (other than some cousins' weddings) for well over twenty years.

i've always wondered what the fds was going to do with the "generations" thing once pretty much everybody who had been alive in 1914 is gone.

i get that they've come up with some "new light" about this topic, but when i ask my mom (who's still in) i only get "well, the new understanding is complicated...".

garyneal

I questioned an elder about this. Here's the e-mail thread on the subject:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/194717/1/Getting-understanding-about-the-New-Generation-Light-from-a-JW-Elder

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SECRET SANTA 2012 ........... Wish List ....... GO ON YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO

by finallysomepride in

jw
friends

for those of you joining the secret santa this year, please give some thought to what you would like to recieve, remembering us$15.00 should be the limit.. just through out some ideas.

the secret santa thread.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/241894/1/secret-santa-2012.

garyneal

Was my gift received?

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So if you tell a JW they were raised in a cult...

by NeverKnew in

jw
friends

yeah...it was wrong.

i got upset and blurted this truth.

seems kinda screwy that telling someone a truth could be wrong.

garyneal

You seem to really care about him and while I can respect and appreciate that given that I am married to a witness, I would say that you are better off without him. Too much emotional baggage as he juggles you and his Watchtower friends around. He actually said that Jehovah would be disappointed by your marrying him? Seriously, you deserve much much better than that.

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Need advice. My inactive jw husband has been lured back.

by ingimar in

garyneal

Been thinking about this thread and the ups and downs over the past three to four years when my wife decided to go back into the witnesses.

I agree with most of the posters on these main points:

Read Steven Hassan's books Combatting Cult Mind Control and Releasing the Bonds.
Learn as much as you can about this religion, if for no other reason than to see for yourself how it is NOT the truth.
Give your spouse space as this will need to run its course.

Obviously, as others pointed out, he is looking for something that he feels is missing in his life. That was my wife when she went running back to the Watchtower. In spite of what society and especially religion sells us, a marraige partner cannot totally fulfill your every need. If yours was anything like our marriage, there were a lot of rough patches that made both of us wonder what is so good about being married.

While people are different the best way I've found to combat this is to show the freedom I have that my wife cannot possibly attain in the religion. She recognizes that her friends in the 'truth' are conditional, that her mom (while truly dedicated to her religion) would do better to live her own life and not be so quick to 'sing like a song bird' to the elders because her cousin is seeing a non-witness, and that she cannot truly express how she feels about some of their strict rules openly to other witnesses.

The fact that your husband is still doing celebrations with you shows that he is truly not a witness in a strict sense. Use that to your advantage by practicing and talking about those things openly. My wife has an advantage that your husband will not have, if she is caught doing something like celebrating any holidays she can hide behind my headship by claiming that I made her do it. In fact, I encourage her to do that and would defend her on those grounds should she ever get called on the carpet by the elders for it. Having a copy of the 'super secret' elder's manual gives me an ace in the hole should anyone in my household get called out by the elders. I respect my wife's right to wanting to associate with them even if I do not agree with everything they do.

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Watchtower softens position on Jehovah' Witnesses and blood transfusions? Canadian National Post Story.

by Balaamsass in

without fanfare, jehovahs witnesses quietly soften position on blood transfusionstom blackwell, national post staff | dec 20, 2012 9:59 pm et.

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