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  Glow in the Dark

  by xelder in

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  "glow in the dark".

  that is the term our family used for the super righteous jw's.

  as in, "that guy glows in the dark".

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  "Glow in the Dark"

  That is the term our family used for the super righteous JW's. As in, "that guy glows in the dark".
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  Blood Question I asked my Elder Buddies

  by xelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i asked 2 elders on seperate occasions (because i'm careful) - the following scenario:.

  a man comes to the elders and asks if he can take blood fractions for clotting since he is a bleeder.

  the elders tell him it's up to his conscience.

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  I asked 2 elders on seperate occasions (because I'm careful) - the following scenario:

  A man comes to the Elders and asks if he can take blood fractions for clotting since he is a bleeder. The elders tell him it's up to his conscience. The man says he feels bad because through his lifetime, many pints of blood from the blood bank will be harvested for his clotting fractions. The elders tell him it's up to him.

  Next day the man's wife excitedly comes to the elders and thanks them for what they said to her husband. She also is relieved because she has an upcoming surgery and now feels according to her conscience that she could store some of her blood for use during surgery. That is surely less of a compromise than her husband taking fractions from the blood bank, she reasons. But the elders say NO...we will have a JC and assume that you have DA'd yourself.

  I now asked the elders if they would feel comfortable sitting on that JC. One honestly said that he would avoid it. The other said he couldn't answer and would think about it. I told both of them that this was an example of why I could not be an elder.
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  Anyone from the South Los Angeles area ? (also Carson,Long Beach,Compton areas too.)

  by Pitchess Co-Gen in

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  i'm from that area and my grandfather was a very prestigious elder.

  tell me your name and congregations and stories.

  ( i love everyones stories .

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  Hi there...well..I'm from Santa Barbara area.....that's fairly close
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  True Story - spirit directed appointments?

  by xelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  names of course have been changed.. ann was 17 and was a baptized jw.

  her homelife with witness parents was not the best.

  her mom, who was raised in the truth had a learning disorder and did her best as a mom, but fell short in many ways.

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  Names of course have been changed.

  Ann was 17 and was a baptized JW. Her homelife with witness parents was not the best. Her mom, who was raised in the truth had a learning disorder and did her best as a mom, but fell short in many ways. Ann's dad was also raised in the truth by a stepdad (who was PO for awhile) who was DF'd for molesting his step-daughters. Ann found a 19 year old JW boyfriend (Bill) and she became pregnant. Both were disfellowshipped and the new baby boy (Mark) was born. She is shunned by her whole family during the most difficult time of her life. In time they are re-instated and married. Happy family did well.

  Fast-forward 7 years....The family has moved 150 miles away to a new congregation. Ann so wants her nice family to be respected at the Kingdom Hall since she had never had that growing up. Bill is recommended as a Ministerial Servant and really wants to be one to finally feel some self-worth among 'God's people'. After getting the approval letter for the appointment back from the society, the elders remember that he had slept with an under-aged girl and that the boy (Mark) had been illegitimate. The elders in this new congregation begin digging, interviewing elders in the former congregation, as well as Ann's dad and mom.

  One night before meeting, two elders have Bill in the back room verifying that he could and would serve as a MS, this is the last step before reading the appointment (he's in and very happy). AT THE SAME TIME , other elders were inteviewing Ann's mom in the other back room about the situation 7 years previous involving her daughter Ann and Bill. The elders interviewing Ann's mom hadn't noticed that kids had been playing hide and seek in the room and were still hiding in a closet. One of those kids was little Mark, and he heard the elders question his grandmother all about what his mom and dad had done, and now understands that he was illegitimate. Bill was not appointed and Ann and Bill are disappointed at Ann's mom for speaking candidly.

  Even when elders try to deal with child-molestation they are idiots. They aren't qualified. Yet these very men determne the qualifications of others? Another fine example of 'spirit-directed' proceedure.
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  Shunned by the world, then by the JWs and then shunned by Theists, when does this end?

  by cyberjesus in

  1. watchtower
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  when i was a jw i always hide my jw status to people of the world because i was taught that we were hated by satan and his world.

  and indeed in school i experienced being ostracized by my religious beliefs and everytime i had to take a stand not saluting the flag i was the object of ridicule.. then when i left the jw now i am shunned by my family by taking a firm posture on my beliefs or disbeliefs.

  now i am ostracized by my own jw family because i dont go along their set of doctrines.. now that i have abandoned any religious belief altogether feel how most people who dont believe in a god are ostracized from the majority of the populations.

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  I don't need Anger Management......I just need people to Quit pissing me off
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  I am exhusted 24/7 by the heat!

  by highdose in

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  i'm sorry time for a moan.

  cyprus is having a mini heat wave.

  over the past week the goverment has issued a health warning to keep out of the sun and not to do any strenuous work.. the humidity factor has been 70-80 % and the wind speed only 6km.

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  It was almost high 70's here on the coast of California....I almost sweat once....I know what heat is like.
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  "but...it would be hard to govern over 6,000,000 people in over 200 lands"

  by xelder in

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  yes....i agree dad.....question is though......did anybody ask them to?.

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  yes....I agree dad.....question is though......did anybody ask them to?
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  How to secretly record an elders meeting?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
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  one in which you are present, as if only one party is aware or doing it, it's legal.

  is there a fairly inexpensive device can buy which either in a pocket or somewhere discreet can get a good recording of up to 2 - 3 hours?

  (audio).

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  Dictation machines (aprox the size of a cell phone) but get a good one...the cheap ones produce static. I used them to record stuff while serving temp at Bethel. I recorded Jack Barr giving the memorial - I recorded morning worship - etc
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  Hermit crabs and creation

  by gringojj in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys its been a long time since i have posted.. anyway i was on vacation this past week at the beach and came across a hermit crab that had lost its shell.

  i started thinking about the creation and intelligent design theory and though what a horrible design if it was created.

  the hermit crab cannot survive without findind the shell of a dead snail to protect it.

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  The Hermit crab problem was actually the first....... 'organizational new lite from God'. Adam saw it's nakedness and went to find clothes too.
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  As a Man have your Attitudes Towards Women Changed since Exiting JW's ?

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  being raised in the jehovah's witness cult - i saw so many times what would be referred to as " supportive wives " wait after meetings for an hour, two hours, even more until midnight for husbands who met in backrooms meeting to decide on judicial matters if some individual witness was righteous - or not.

  wives of elders were expected to do this to show submission and alleged " respect " for the headship arrangement or eldership of their husbands !

  incredible.

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  Hey Flipper - sending a PM so I can meet you...I'm near Santa barbara...and will drive to you sometime

  Women and Elder's wives....I think most of us men are works in progress in this matter. But, I sincerely believe that I have improved greatly. I think all of society has had to learn to change, but it's was especially bad for JW wives. What do you expect from a group who wants to still be "under law" just like being Jews. T be honest, JW life for a female seems close to the bible description of Isrealite wives. In the 70's as a kid in the congregation, "women's liberation" was a bad word and linked up with the whole hippie movement. No doubt about it, the finest individuals I've known in the Borg were female.