Posts by xelder

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They will be DFing me soon for apostasy...

by RayPublisher in

well i figured i should give you all an update.

they will be dfing me soon for apostasy.

it is not a huge surprise and i am not afraid nor "shaking in my boots", however i will admit it is stressful right now.

xelder

Hey Ray,

All the support I can offer bud. You are not alone on this journey, but I feel for your stress.

Hey everyone else....This is a good man.

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Shunning ... when it's Convenient

by xelder in

i have a lifelong buddy (g) who is now df'd ....doing great and happy.

he has a nice boat.

a while back he gets a call from a very well known elder who, of course, shuns him.. elder: "hi g. i know this is a little strange, but i don't know who else to call".

xelder

"How's about you call the coast gaurd, that would probably set you back several thousand"

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Shunning ... when it's Convenient

by xelder in

i have a lifelong buddy (g) who is now df'd ....doing great and happy.

he has a nice boat.

a while back he gets a call from a very well known elder who, of course, shuns him.. elder: "hi g. i know this is a little strange, but i don't know who else to call".

xelder

I have a lifelong buddy (G) who is now DF'd ....doing great and happy. He has a nice boat. A while back he gets a call from a very well known elder who, of course, shuns him.

Elder: "Hi G. I know this is a little strange, but I don't know who else to call"

Buddy (G): "Hi elder, how ya been, nice to hear from you"

Elder: "I'm scared for my kids, they went sailing and are stuck 50 miles up the coast, tide coming in and they are stuck, cold, scared to get smashed into rocks. You are the only person I know that could go help them. Please?

Buddy (G): No problem, on my way.

My buddy is that type of guy. Went 50 miles up the coast and towed them back. A week later, those same kids saw him downtown and resumed the shunning. Who is the moral person?

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Got to Make an Elder Squirm the Other Day

by xelder in

i heard from a very reliable first hand source that an elder in a nearby congregation was talking about my views of the organization.

so, i called him.................................................................................................. me: hello m. this is xelder, i heard that you had a conversation with h. the other day.

any idea why i might be calling you concerned about what was said?.

xelder

Hahahaha thanks for the replies everyone. Of course I know that this will fuel more gossip. What I did will cause more talk for sure. I am out and my kids are out so I can enjoy chances to bloody their nose a little. I have worked around their stupid inquiries for 3 years now and so far I'm Teflon. I even go into Saturday morning coffee break spots and chat up their flock right in front of them. I love it. But, I only do so once in a while and then go away. The publishers are all still nice to me when we meet in a store. They aren't sure how to label a fader, but I always visit and don't let them ignore me. For now, it is so fun to have my cake and eat it too. I know the elders game way better than most of them do because I was one of the top POS elders.

Thanks for the concern, but as of now, my Teflon is intact :)

Now, for a more fun single guy subject. Where are you single ladies ? :)

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Got to Make an Elder Squirm the Other Day

by xelder in

i heard from a very reliable first hand source that an elder in a nearby congregation was talking about my views of the organization.

so, i called him.................................................................................................. me: hello m. this is xelder, i heard that you had a conversation with h. the other day.

any idea why i might be calling you concerned about what was said?.

xelder

I heard from a very reliable first hand source that an elder in a nearby congregation was talking about my views of the organization. So, I called him.................................................................................................

ME: Hello M. this is xelder, I heard that you had a conversation with H. the other day. Any idea why I might be calling you concerned about what was said?

M: Well, maybe because I said you were saying things against the organization. I did hear that about you. I was just concerned for you.

ME: If you were concerned for me, why are you talking to others? What does scripture say you should do?

M: Call you directly. But, I didn't have your number.

ME: If your child's life depended on getting in touch with me, do you think you could?

M: Yes.

ME: So really, there was no concern, it was gossip and probably slander.

M: Well, I heard it from another Elder, not from a publisher.

Me: So what ???? So now the elders are running a gossip story between congregations? Let's call the Circuit Overseer and see what he says. Or, you could quit being a worm, start being a man and apologize.

M: I'm sorry.

ME: And you are going to go stop the rumor with the other elder correct?

M: Yes I will, I'm sorry

ME: All is good. See ya

I had him by the balls. I had him on the phone alone. I made him squirm.

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Anyone here going to Long Beach for DC this year?

by RayPublisher in

if so, which weekend might you be going?.

just curious.... .

xelder

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Give Some Logical Points To Prove That JWs Do Not Have The Truth

by minimus in

jw
friends

the one thing that got to me was that this religion is illogical.

their "logic" is ridiculous, especially when it comes to their blood doctrine.

downright weird!.

xelder

Poopsie...this is what I respect about science. Gravity, Orbits, Plate Tectonics, etc are all open to revision. All can discuss and modify and at worst, get laughed at. Religion needs to operate like science, with a modest respect of the unknown. Reality and Truth are sometimes out of sight (for now)

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Give Some Logical Points To Prove That JWs Do Not Have The Truth

by minimus in

jw
friends

the one thing that got to me was that this religion is illogical.

their "logic" is ridiculous, especially when it comes to their blood doctrine.

downright weird!.

xelder

They try to control free thought and expression. If they have truth, What is truth afraid of?

To grow in knowledge, an idea must be willing to take on all comers and constantly prove that new ideas either fail or advance knowledge. Sometimes, we just don't know yet, but instead of controlling, we should continue to analyse.

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Failed Marriages..."Born ins"

by xelder in

it is impossible to unweave the complex cobweb of a failed marriage and totally understand it, let alone to generalize the occurance for many other couples.

but, let's assume the case of a marriage of two typical jw born-ins.

as far as jw's go, they grew up without major disfunction, still talk to their parents, etc.. in cases like this, how many of these couples are still together?

xelder

It is impossible to unweave the complex cobweb of a failed marriage and totally understand it, let alone to generalize the occurance for many other couples. But, let's assume the case of a marriage of two typical JW born-ins. As far as JW's go, they grew up without major disfunction, still talk to their parents, etc.

In cases like this, how many of these couples are still together? Since "finding a spiritual mate" was the main goal, many other compatability factors end up being ignored. They marry too young to even know what those issues might be. The WT encourages them to wait until older, but like most kids, they want some sex.

So...from your experiences and observations, how many of these couples are still couples? This is especially of interest if they both are now out. Did leaving the Borg ruin their marriage? Or, did being in the Borg ruin their marriage? Or, did they get lucky and actually find a lasting romance?

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Seven Times Do Not Equal 2,520 Days

by DT in

how long is seven times?

it's important to note that the bible doesn't say.

jehovah's witnesses have calculated that it comes to 2,520 days.

xelder

Alrighty then, glad to be made aware.