Posts by xelder

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Summary

by xelder in

summary.

8 years ago, my first grandson ethan was born.

i also read a blip on the evil internet from ray franz book in search of christian freedom.

Summary
8 years ago, My first Grandson Ethan was born.
I also read a blip on the evil internet from Ray Franz book in Search of Christian Freedom. It was about blood. I was researching because my brother was very ill, passed away.

7 years ago, my granddaughter Clara was born and I resigned as an Elder.

5 years ago, I read Crisis of Conscience.
Also my grandson Jonas was born.

4 years ago, as the economy crashed I layed off 90 people.

3 years ago, my granddaughter Ella was born.
Also my wife of 31 years left me.

2 years ago, I began helping my ex with serious depression, alcoholism, 2 DUI's
I also attended my last meeting.
I got my kids out of the borg and all the grandkids :)

1 year ago, my grandson Luke was born.

Even in the midst of pain and change, good things are happening. The future is bright

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Genesis 3:16 - As to ALL Women... or One Woman? A Favor, Please...

by AGuest in

may you all have peace!.

so, as some of you might know (or discern)... or not... i am not your usual submissive/in subjection kind of girl.

given what some apparently expect of women... as wives, daughters, female friends... and in general... i was curious about the greater fulfillment of genesis 3:16, because many are of the belief that it applies to all women as to all men... (including those that aren't their husbands)... and not the just one being addressed at the time (eve as to adham).. personally, other than paul's position on women teaching in public (which was borne of what was occurring in the region at the time, due to by-then jewish culture and roman occupation)... and peter's admonishment for wives to submit themselves to their own husbands... that i know of nothing that validates a woman being in subjection to anyone other than her own husband, and even then such "subjection" is not puerile or unrestrained (so as to just be a given), but borne of love and respect for her husband (in which case it should not be difficult)... who is obligated to honor her, as well.

xelder

Hi again Shelby,

I think scripture has been used to influence many. But, my theory is that male domineering attitudes may predate scripture. People will tend to dominate the physically weaker and vulnerable. Not only was he almost always stronger than her, but she had to be pregnant and take care of little ones. This made her (and still does) have to submit to the jerk and his power play. Hebrew culture seems to have been full of this.

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Genesis 3:16 - As to ALL Women... or One Woman? A Favor, Please...

by AGuest in

may you all have peace!.

so, as some of you might know (or discern)... or not... i am not your usual submissive/in subjection kind of girl.

given what some apparently expect of women... as wives, daughters, female friends... and in general... i was curious about the greater fulfillment of genesis 3:16, because many are of the belief that it applies to all women as to all men... (including those that aren't their husbands)... and not the just one being addressed at the time (eve as to adham).. personally, other than paul's position on women teaching in public (which was borne of what was occurring in the region at the time, due to by-then jewish culture and roman occupation)... and peter's admonishment for wives to submit themselves to their own husbands... that i know of nothing that validates a woman being in subjection to anyone other than her own husband, and even then such "subjection" is not puerile or unrestrained (so as to just be a given), but borne of love and respect for her husband (in which case it should not be difficult)... who is obligated to honor her, as well.

xelder

Howdy Shelby,

Haven"t visited with you since we were at Walnut Creek and met Candice and her mom. Nice to hear from you, hope husband and puppies are well.

Gender aside, abrasive people annoy me. Now I will admit that as a JW all my life, I had extra annoyance with an abrasive female. I don't think that was fair and I try to correct that. I appreciate people who consult, consider other opinions, etc. Now I must also admit that I have been abrasive much more than I care to admit. (Work in progress)

I suppose that some roles require a super confident "A" type personality. (A Fighter pilot has to believe in himself, and so his or her strong personality fits a purpose I suppose.)

My source is just a sense of community fairness (not biblical). It seems a good goal would be to appreciate the natural gifts that TEND to go with each gender. (TEND ... not stereotyping here) I have certainly met many females over the years who I respect and would not want to have to try to win a match of wits (you included). All that said....US GUYS ARE THE BEST :) :) :)

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"The Elders will want to be sure and take the lead in Holiday Witnessing"

by xelder in

few things pissed me off more than that manipulative comment in the km every holiday.

so glad to have tomorrow off.

hey fds...piss off.

xelder

Few things pissed me off more than that manipulative comment in the KM every Holiday. So glad to have tomorrow off. Hey FDS...PISS OFF

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Reasons to fade or not to fade

by gabrielg in

lately i've been thinking about fading from the cong but im not sure about what would be the top reason in my list.

without writing 2 page answers, question for anyone posting in repply to this or whoever reads this.

what would be your reason/reasons for fading?

xelder

My fade, while having great personal cost, SAVED MY FUTURE GENERATIONS. I got my kids out, and grandkids.

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Looking to reconnect with some friends in the San Diego area

by NotAnyMore in

i moved to san diego over 10 years ago and was still active at the time.

since that time however, i have executed a nearly perfect fade.

i would like to see if i can get in touch with some of the friends i had made in that short amount of time to see if they are still going or possibly have opened their eyes as well.. i went to the pacific beach congregation for quite some time and also knew/visited several friends in the kearny mesa and spring valley halls.

xelder

I also have faded. got my kids out too !!! I'm in the Santa Barbara area.

Two wonderful people who helped me are in San Diego http://www.watchtowerworld.org/NilsJansma.htm

They both blog on freeminds.org

Sherri at http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=106&Itemid=661

Nils at http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=109&Itemid=664

contact me at [email protected]

I finally met them this summer and took them to lunch as a big thank-you.

Wish you the best and welcome !!!

xelder

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JWStruggle Apostasy Trial Videos Questions

by turtleturtle in

some questions for jwstruggle's apostasy trial videos:

1) what the heck happened with your marriage?

why did your wife divorce you?

xelder

OK turtle....

You assume a lot. Ray posted all this but that doesn't mean he has to be questioned about his marriage. Instead of asking for more, just a thanks for the awesome job he did do would be fine. The rest in not our right to inquire. Please leave this alone.

thx xelder

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Powerful questions to DEBUNK the flood of Noah's day

by Black Man in

jw
friends

just like in another thread a saw, the best way to deal with my jws is not debating or arguing, but instead posing questions for them to answer or not answer.

i want to come up with specific questions relating to the 'global flood' that completely debunk it.

what say you, jw.net?.

xelder

Living Bristlecone Pines are absolutley known to be over 4700 years old by actual tree ring count. By counting rings of dead trees that haven't decayed yet, absolute proof has been established that these trees have been alive continuously for over 11,000. A really nice park exists near Bishop, California. No flood covered those mountains !!!!

http://www.sonic.net/bristlecone/

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Who here lives in California?

by TimothyT in

jw
friends

if you do tell me a bit about where you live in just a few words.

:).

timmy :).

xelder

between LA and SF, on the 101