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  Did you get " Counseled " about the Music you Listened to While you were a JW ?

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  from the time i was a small boy - i loved rock n' roll music.

  beatles, rolling stones, led zeppelin, hendrix.

  i started getting slighted for the music i listened to as i lay in my bedroom listening on headphones to led zeppelin's song " black dog " at age 14 with my elder dad looking suspiciously at me as i'm rocking out .

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  FLIPPER !!! you and your SATANIC debasing music!!!

  The birds of heaven will be pecking out your eyeballs, then the temple of God will be cleansed. Jehovah HATES electric guitars!!! Would Jesus play your immoral music???
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  Sign Of The Times by Carl Jonsson - Want to Borrow

  by AnonVet in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have read both of franz' books and am almost done carl jonsson's first book.

  i was able to get this material as .pdf and read for free.. i hate to sound cheap, but i cannot find the sign of the times in .pdf.. does anybody have a link to it?

  or can i borrow your copy and mail it back when done?.

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  AnonVet I can help email me

  [email protected]
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  Elder molester - Montana - 1970s - need your help please

  by tazchick55 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hi there tazchick55 here need your assistance i am trying to locate an elder who molested my sister when she was 16 without publishing his name his initials r j c he bounced around montana with his wife and another woman gawd only know what was up with that.

  they never stayed in one place long i believe wify and friend were pioneers he was an elder in the bozeman/belgrade about 1976 or there about there is a good chance he is dead (one can only hope he died a painful death at any rate if you have any information let me know thanks.

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  tazchick55

  I was there in Bozeman at that time as a kid. email me [email protected]

  Maybe I know you
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  CO Special Meeting with MS & Elders

  by Syme in

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  2. friends

  when the co visits a cognregation this semester, a special meeting with elders and mss is sceduled tuesday night, right after the normal meeting.

  does anyone know what this meeting is about?

  this special meeting is held at the beginning of the co-week, and is different from the standard meeting with personnel which is held friday evening.

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  I have not attended these meetings in 7 years.....but:

  There have long been two meetings with the appointed brothers. First is a meeting with both MS and Elders. The second is with Elders only.

  Most CO's did them together (usually Friday night). A few CO's did the first, shorter meeting on Tuesdays, saving more time for the heavy stuff with Elders on Friday evening.

  That may answer your question.....but it's been awhile so who knows? I hate it that I even remember that much!!
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  Your Experience with Resigning as an Elder

  by committeechairman in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm considering resigning as an elder.

  i'm not planning to fade or stop as one of jehovah's witnesses, just stop serving as an elder.. i have responsibility in the congregation and in circuit, district, rbc, etc.

  and i'm completely exhausted.

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  Hi Chairman,

  I relate to how you feel. I served for decades also ....RBC, district talks and departments, congregation responsibilities too many to mention, served temp at Bethel, etc.

  I always felt guilty for not doing enough. I have now successfully faded for 3 years, talk with family and occasionally with friends still in. I got my two kids out and 5 grandkids. We are all living full happy lives of accomplishment without fear, guilt and being watched.

  I couldn't tolerate DFing anymore, I couldn't stand the Pedophile policies, I was tired of giving talks defending stupid doctrine like dates, I was tired of parts on how to push magazines and push people to pioneer. Blood policy was wacko. I was a champion of conscience, not rules. I especially needed to start living my conscience. I couldn't sell their doctrine door to door.

  When a pioneer quits, they get some sympathy. When an elder quits....it is assumed that he must be a bum. I am sorry for the feelings you will have and beat yourself with, but you have to define your worth outside of the opinion of the Organization Power people. Hopefully your wife and family support you.

  Many of us high profile elders defined our worth by organizational acceptance and we were proud of all we accomplished. But it is just a hamster wheel that turns faster and faster and faster.
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  Im new and need help!

  by Batman89 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello everybody, before i begin i just wanna say that i have really found alot of great posts on here that have been helpful forme , theres definitely alot of brilliant people here!.

  i am a born in jw(24 years old) ive been baptized for 7 years and was a ministerial servant for 4 years(i am no longer one).

  recently me and my parents have have woken up to ttatt(about 2 months ago).

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  hey buddy, I learned ttatt at 50 years old and it took 2,3 years to clear my head and decide how to use my life. If you choose, know that there are many, many wonderful people whom you haven't met. Some are amazing, talented, we'll balanced FEMALES without watchtower cobwebs in the brain.
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  Naturalism is Dead - Why Are Believers Stuck in the Past?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sigmund freud, karl marx and charles darwin are considered the pillars of modern western thought.

  they differed in many ways but had one thing in commonthey were reductionists who claimed that all higher realms of existence could be explained by lower natural causes.

  they were the pillars of naturalism.. but their ideas were tested during the twentieth century and found wanting.

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  Once again, a Major fail by Perry. lord jesus must be so ashamed of Perrys weak use of his power.
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  Are you as critical of higher education and science as you are of religion?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am beginning to see a complete unbalanced shift from one end of the spectrum to the other.

  i'll use jw's as the example but this would apply to any religion and any person.

  if you just accepted the jw teachings unquestionably from the governing body because you felt they were the highest authority on the matter and 'trusted' them before waking up to ttatt you may shift to the other end of the spectrum.

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  Science is limited by the progress of knowledge to this point. It is moving that barrier, sometimes two steps forward and one step back. For the most part, I have found science to be honest. At least people are free to challenge it, to expand their learning. The fact that theories are tested, challenged, mocked....then eventually demonstrated or shot down is what is important. The right to question.

  Religion can't progress.....it is stuck in old documents that old guys interpret and expect others to trust...."we said so"
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  Governing Body Running Scarred and 12-13-14 "Might Be the End"?

  by RottenRiley in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this went bad, i hit click before i could post my thoughts about the fear factor going through our crazy kingdom hall.

  the title of this thread was aimed at asking why the governing body is becoming so afraid and demanding the elders and rank and file to put their trust in the dukes of the kingdom hall.

  (pslams 146:3).. .

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  Hey Riley,

  Would you like to meet some great folks from your area?
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  2004 JW Elder Molested his Granddaughter

  by xelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.svherald.com/content/michael-sullivan/2004/12/12/295423.

  not sure if this one ever made it to this forum.. .

  i personally knew this family.

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  http://www.svherald.com/content/michael-sullivan/2004/12/12/295423

  Not sure if this one ever made it to this forum.

  I personally knew this family. This guy was a frequent assembly speaker big shot.

  Notice his excuses.

  Trouble is, this family are all still "in the troof"