So........a grown adult manipulates a young lad into a sexual relationship. The elders dont report this to the authorities and instead keep it in house. They then mete out THEIR justice by disfellowship both the abuser and the victim ie a young 14 year old lad? Incredible!!!!!
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Deleware child abuse case major implications
by poopie infollow case it may change judicial comittees
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The rise and rise of Paul Gillies?
by JWB inthe rise and rise of paul gillies?.
here are a view details about the 57-year-old paul stuart gillies.. .
2011: appointed as a director of international bible students association (ibsa) on 2 november having resigned as a director of watch tower bible and tract society of britain on the same day.
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I saw Paul Gillies give a talk in Glasgow once and can honestly say he was incredibly wooden and bland in his delivery. He comes over as very matter of fact as opposed to expressing himself from the heart. -
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What authority have the GB got left to them?
by Half banana in( jw governing body members are invited to respond) .
however professional and glossy their pr makeover is, as seen on jw tv and the jw org logo... the bottom line is that 19th century religious adventist claims are no longer sexy..
to outsiders the jw org now has all the allure of a donkey wearing lipstick..
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Very good OP. I thinks slimboyfats take on things is in a nut shell a factor as to why so many of us remain despite knowledge of the facts that we are being led by a handful of deluded dudes in NY. The social factor also holds sway, particularly if raised as a JW. Of course adding to this the whole cruel shunning policy for simply choosing to leave 'officially' is the cherry on the icing as to why people don't leave. The GB need to stop being so totalitarian in their harsh authoritarian policies which are putting so many people off and instead bring in the Christ like 'Christian' authority that the rank need. -
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Notable changes of the JWs org, in the last five years or so
by glenster ini've been updating the links at my web site and i'm working on the gtjbrooklyn pages now.
what would you say are the several biggest changesin the jws organization/rules in the last five years or so?
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Yep.....the GB aka 7 dudes in Brooklyn New York are 'The faithful and discreet slave' which provides the spiritual food to ALL Christians throughout the earth. Christians of course ONLY being Jehovah's witnesses! -
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What Is The Watchtower's Biggest Problem?
by minimus inthe organization has many problems.
certain doctrines are problematic.
the men who run the organizaion have issues.
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As an organisation, they are unwilling to accept constructive criticism. They will not listen to reasonable feedback that can help the organisation to move forward and have created an atmosphere of fear as a result of this. Disfellowshipping and shunning anyone who dares to do so! They have deluded themselves into thinking this is the way it has always been and should not be changed.. ie we are the GB ( Gods channel of communication). We are right! We are not to be questioned....no matter what!! That is 'part' of their problem. -
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What Is The Watchtower's Biggest Problem?
by minimus inthe organization has many problems.
certain doctrines are problematic.
the men who run the organizaion have issues.
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Their biggest problem is the fact they have ultimate control over everything they teach and lay down as rules. Instead of doing what their publications were initially to do which was to build up a christians faith, they instead took over as it were and now have put themselves in a corner. -
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QUICK! Questions to ask MARK SANDERSON!!!!!!!
by TeenageInsider inquickly!!.
mark sanderson at a regional assembly.. i will find him and ask him questings.. please quickly leave questions you want me to ask.. i will record and post updates!!!!.
hurry..
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If you get a chance, please ask him if he would welcome a members freedom to express their views when they believe something is clearly wrong or questionable, so that such feed back can be used constructively to benefit the organisation! -
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News Flash: New Reveal Article
by Sugar Shane inless than an hour old:.
https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.
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Fisherman - every scenario is different. The Australian Royal Commission exposed many flaws in the one size fits all current safeguarding policy of the Watchtower and it's handling of matters involving an alleged crime. If elders are deeply concerned about an individual and the safety of its members, there are steps that can be taken to help reduce risk or danger. In most situations, the elders are legally bound by confidentiality which I entirely agree with; but they also have a duty of care to the congregation which is why in some cases have a legal duty (in compliance with the laws of the land) to share information with the authorities to protect its own members and the public at large. Doing nothing is why so many cases are now ending up in court and a reason why hearings and investigations are taking place into organisations like Watchtower to find out why there is a failure in reporting crimes such as child abuse to the authorities. -
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News Flash: New Reveal Article
by Sugar Shane inless than an hour old:.
https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.
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Fisherman - Note: I meant to add that I see your point about how someone despicable as a child abuser who is repentant is entitled to spiritual confidentiality. However, right now, sadly I am much more suspicious toward other witnesses at my KH (for good reason btw) knowing that the possibility there just might be a person in the hall who has a history of allegations made against them, such as was highlighted at the ARC. Supposing a brother molested a number of children spanning 20 years, yet it was all kept 'inhouse', and that individual had never been reported to the police, because he denied it and because of the 2 witness rule policy. Yet he could be sitting feet away from my family at the KH, or he could be invited into our home or indeed out in the ministry with our child etc etc. Not knowing the danger that a prolific abuser is within your midst is too high risk in my mind. Watchtower needs a better safeguarding policy to deal with such issues effectively. -
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News Flash: New Reveal Article
by Sugar Shane inless than an hour old:.
https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.
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Fisherman.....Confidentiality can be a tricky area and its understandable that the elders are bound by it in certain circumstances. But let's say hypothetically a young teenage girl discloses to the elders that a well respected brother in the hall has raped her lets say several months earlier. She asks them not to tell anyone...to keep it confidential. Yet clearly, they can tell she is telling the truth. They tell her she has the right to go to the police, but she says she won't. What should the elders do? Scenarios like this are happening all the time. That is why an effective safeguarding policy needs to be implemented by Watchtower so that all elders are clear about procedures particularly when an alleged crime has taken place. Keeping such information 'inhouse' does not give it's members much confidence in keeping children and vulnerable adults safe. Not only that, but failure to disclose such information to the police and social services may put children and vulnerable adults within the local area at risk too. The 2 witness rule works for many types of sins. Circumstantial evidence and other forms of evidence is required in many cases where child abuse has taken place.