the 7 dudes in brooklynn are to blame for that contradiction. Their policy on shunning flies completely in the face of showing love!!!!!! Their policy reminds me of a school kid picking petals of a flower....love you, love you not, love you love you not........
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Awww, you "love and miss us"? Really? Then why ignore us?
by stuckinarut2 inso we received the obligatory "shoved under the door" memorial invitation and "return to jehovah" brochure the other week.
it also had a hand written note from two elders saying "we love and miss you" etc.... so why then when one of them saw us at the grocery store, did he pretend to not see us and then ignore and quickly walk away?.
the sincerity is wonderful..... dont get me wrong, we dont want any attention from them, but it's an interesting observation anyway.....
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Coming to terms with the Watchtower experience
by Lee Elder init is a challenge coming to terms with your experience as a jehovah's witness.
if you were born and raised as a jw, and your parents were true believers, the impact on your life is profound, lasting, and largely negative.
in some cases quite abusive emotionally, spiritually, financially, educationally and yes, even sexually.. i recently watched "trumbo", and was quite moved by dalton trumbo's speech to the screen writers guild in 1970. here is an excerpt that i think is quite relevant to this topic:.
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As someone who currently attends, having to come to terms with the fact that the GB wont listen to the outcries of the thousands of people who are being hurt as a result of their policies is a travesty. Their teachings and policies sets people up to fail, regardless of whether you are introduced or a born in. -
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The earth is flat...
by rory-ks in...and the ship is sailing over the edge.. .
such is the state of the watch tower society..
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Watchtower aint sailing over the edge. The so called south pole is in reality the actual barrier that circles the flat earth. I would however say that the WT ship is hitting one iceberg after another and 'may' sink soon unless it steers its ship on the right course. -
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Watchtowers baptizing 'kids' clearly sets them up to fail in many cases. Do they tell these kids that they will be emotionally black mailed if they get disfellowshipped for doing wrong. Do these kids realise they will be shunned if they step out of line after baptism. I was baptised at 23 and had no idea that this disgusting policy was part and parcel of this high control faith group! -
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Long time lurker, first time poster ...
by LettMorrisSplaneit ini finally had the guts to create a profile to be able to post.
i've been lurking for a few months and have read all your experiences and comments dutifully.
you have been a great help in my process of waking up from this cult posing as the one true religion.
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Welcome LMSit. Great name BTW.
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Why all the secrecy in Gods organisation?
by Truthexplorer inlooking back and seeing all the secrecy and cover ups throughout wt history such as the secret elders books, the branch correspondence guidelines, the shameful lying and deceipt exposed during the arc questioning, the in-house way of dealing with things, the lack of openness to the media on issues such as blood or child abuse or anything controversial for that matter.
could this relate in some way to russell's alleged past as a freemason?
it seems quite strange that the founder of the bible students quite possibly may have been a freemason, (an organisation well known for its secrecy).
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Well put Finkelstein. In fact the word 'Pretentious' sums up Watchtower. That was the view I had of Geoff (there shall be no end to shunning) Jacksons effort at the ARC hearing. That was also how I viewed that laywer Vincent Toole. His cold calculated manner really got to me. -
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The impact of guilt, obligation and fear of Watchtower
by Truthexplorer ini find it very sad that people have limited choices as to whether they wish to stay or leave watchtower.
many are simply held captive as a result.
fear of losing family and friends being the biggest factor.
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I find it very sad that people have limited choices as to whether they wish to stay or leave Watchtower. Many are simply held captive as a result. Fear of losing family and friends being the biggest factor. For those who choose to fade, the whole setup of Watchtower creates the situation where it becomes embarrassing to maintain friendships per se which is understandable; and good longtime friendships are affected as a result. It really grinds my gears that 7 geezers in New York can have such control over people. Where are peoples rights to religious freedom in GB's tangled web of policies? -
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Why all the secrecy in Gods organisation?
by Truthexplorer inlooking back and seeing all the secrecy and cover ups throughout wt history such as the secret elders books, the branch correspondence guidelines, the shameful lying and deceipt exposed during the arc questioning, the in-house way of dealing with things, the lack of openness to the media on issues such as blood or child abuse or anything controversial for that matter.
could this relate in some way to russell's alleged past as a freemason?
it seems quite strange that the founder of the bible students quite possibly may have been a freemason, (an organisation well known for its secrecy).
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I should have put 'Gods exclusive Organisation' according to Watchtower. The point I was making is that secrecy is part of the culture of Watchtower, and perhaps that culture originated with Russell and his personal handling of matters. Note this isn't to have a go at Freemasons BTW. It was just to theorise as to why Watchtower has this culture of secrecy and coverups within their Organisation? -
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Why all the secrecy in Gods organisation?
by Truthexplorer inlooking back and seeing all the secrecy and cover ups throughout wt history such as the secret elders books, the branch correspondence guidelines, the shameful lying and deceipt exposed during the arc questioning, the in-house way of dealing with things, the lack of openness to the media on issues such as blood or child abuse or anything controversial for that matter.
could this relate in some way to russell's alleged past as a freemason?
it seems quite strange that the founder of the bible students quite possibly may have been a freemason, (an organisation well known for its secrecy).
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Looking back and seeing all the secrecy and cover ups throughout WT history such as the secret elders books, the branch correspondence guidelines, the shameful lying and deceipt exposed during the ARC questioning, the in-house way of dealing with things, the lack of openness to the media on issues such as blood or child abuse or anything controversial for that matter. Could this relate in some way to Russell's alleged past as a freemason? It seems quite strange that the founder of the bible students quite possibly may have been a freemason, (an organisation well known for its secrecy). Could it be he who laid the original roots as to keepng things 'in house' particularly when controversies arose. As a possible freemason, Russell would have treated secrecy with respect and high importance. This method of thinking would then be passed to the degree with which we see today in the media as outlined above. It seems rather odd that the WT organisation appears to go to such incredible lengths to keep many things 'secret'. Just a theory! -
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Deleware child abuse case major implications
by poopie infollow case it may change judicial comittees
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So........a grown adult manipulates a young lad into a sexual relationship. The elders dont report this to the authorities and instead keep it in house. They then mete out THEIR justice by disfellowship both the abuser and the victim ie a young 14 year old lad? Incredible!!!!!