What was "different"...about the 'audio' drama?
Nobody was stuck with the job of sewing together costumes for a "bathrobe epic".
GLTirebiter
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Day 2 of the Convention is over ... what's missing?
by wannabefree inday number 2 is done.. there was an audio drama, sure, it adds some excitement, hey, its different.. final talk "stay close to jehovah, as jeremiah did" ended with the release of the book ... god's word for us through jeremiah ... not a verse by verse consideration of prophecy, rather, what we can learn from jeremiah's life as a prophet, considers information from jeremiah and lamentations.
(of course informed readers of this site knew of this release already.).
noticibly missing ... jesus christ ... to me it was painfully obvious.. one talk i think was numbing our mind to accept the generation bomb tomorrow.. i couldn't help but realize that throughout the convention so far, the vast majority of scriptural references are from old testament (yes, it was hard not to say hebrew scriptures, so i just did).. i didn't realize it so much in the past, but it seems like jehovah's witnesses are trying to accomplish what the nation of israel couldn't, follow laws.
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GLTirebiter
What do you mean when you say "God"?
If you're talking about the Pagan-Greco-Roman superman in the sky: no, to me that conceopt is human conceit. It places humanity above its place, which is being a small piece of creation, albeit one with the remarkable gift of having some awareness of where we fit into the universe. That awareness, imperfect and incomplete though it is, encompasses things we call "religion", "science" and "philosophy".
If you mean the reason behind creation, the truth the preceeded the origin of space and time which we call the "big bang", made that Genesis moment happen, and will still be there after the universe as we know it fades to cold darkness: then my answer is "Yes, of course!" God is not a material "being" like us mortal creatures. Human language and understanding can only vaguely comprehend the truth of "Why we are we here."
To me, limiting our understanding to a prehistoric concept of God is just as incorrect and disrepectful as glossing over the concept altogether. Neither recognizes the proper place of humanity, nor shows proper respect for the awesome gift of being able to see what that place is.
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Should I Remain Married to a Disfellowshipped Jehovah's Witness?
by Dogpatch inin response to my article entitled, "should i divorce my jehovah's witness mate?
the only comfort i can find in these stories is the fact that i no longer feel alone in this very confusing time.. .
i have been in a relationship for the last 15 years with a disfellowshipped jw.
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What I see here reminds me of an article titled The Emotional Terrorist. He is using promises "to curb his temper and alcohol problem, and be a better man, husband, and father...to try to work things out with me and save our relationship" to manipulate B.A.AM into staying when she's already decided she needs to leave. He is the adulter, the drunk, the verbal abuser. Yet he feels entitled to dictate "numerous conditions" for continuing the relationship? It seems to me that things are already getting worse. B.A.AM has already considerably compromised her beliefs for him, now he demands she do so even more (when he's the one who should be groveling: what nerve!).
There is nothing to gain by negotiating with such people, there is no middle ground: whatever you give they take, offering little in return but empty promises and demands for further concessions.
I don’t know if I can do this. I don’t think I have the faith in his promises that this for the better of our family
That doubt is the voice of reason saying what the emotions refuse to hear!
B.A.AM, if you're reading here: see a lawyer about getting child support and custody orders. You need to look out for the welfare of the children, even if there is no marriage to dissolve.
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I'm so miserable since leaving the JWs
by keyser soze ini can barely stand it.
does anyone else feel this way?.
for instance, i have a four-day weekend from work, which means i had today off(with pay, thank you very much).
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GLTirebiter
The local American Legion hall is looking for volunteers to help place flags on Veterans' graves tomorrow morning. Just a thought, if you need something to do instead of going out on serve-us Saturday morning!
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It's done. I did it. I moved out.
by doublelife ini'm officially living on my own and it feels great.
i was worried that once i move out i'd regret my decision but i knew right away that i made the right decision.
i was nervous about telling him.
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Well, I'm glad it went relatively smoothly. I hope you can work out the settlement peacefully, and you both can move on with your lives.
The ring is a gift, thus yours to do with as you see fit: wear it, sell it, give it back, or keep it in a shoebox under the bed. If you want to give it back, fine--but there's no obligation.
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Going up to Colorado for a couple of weeks!
by JWoods inwell, in about an hour or so i am going to shut the computer down and get ready to go to colorado.. we bought a mountain cabin on the st. vrain river there last year - (a few miles south of estes park, just outside rocky mountain national park).. no tv, no internet, no phone.. will see you all after the 15th of june.... james.
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JWoods, enjoy your vacation! If you want to head up the road to Rocky Mtn. Nat'l Park, Trail Ridge Road opens for the season this weekend.
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What Perplexes You About Jehovah's Witnesses?
by minimus ini'll tell you what i just can't get.. how the hell can anyone cry wolf as many times as the witnesses have without huge repercussions afterward?
i don't get it.. "the end is sooooooooo sooooooooooo close and you better get back to the organization for protection before it is too late!!!".
have they no shame???.
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Gullibility tops my list. Not just about the WT doctrines, but also getting involved in every conceivable MLM scam and all the medical quackery known to mankind. Watching infomercials, and actually believing the "look what else you get!" stuff is a free gift. Witnesses seem to be victimes of con men of every sort.
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Not quite, you don't get it back when you go home.
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Anyone get divorced because of differing beliefs?
by NiceDream inlately my husband has been miserable, but isn't talking.
he is really upset that he is "stuck with me" now that he knows i question my beliefs.
i thought we could explore the bible together and i hoped he would come to the same conclusion as me, but he won't do that.
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Yes, in part. I won't say our differing beliefs were the only cause, nor the main cause. But those differences did make it much harder to mend the little rifts that occur in any close relationship. Instead of having spiritual glue helping to mend the little splits and hold us together, we had a spiritual wedge opening tiny cracks into ever widening splits, until there was no connection holding us together. Our relationship was "irretrievably broken", as the family court so aptly words it. In truth, divorce was a legal formality: the relationship was over long before the court made it official.
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You asked, "Will it get better?" If you can still talk to and listen to each other, you have a chance. But that means both parties: a partnership means two people making the effort, not one doing all the giving and the other all the taking. If both you and your husband make that committment to each other and your marriage, yes it can get better. But if either one doesn't make the effort, the other partner can't do it alone. It takes two.
Good luck to you, I hope it works out. Do talk to him about the things in the second paragraph, and give it your best effort.
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Converstaion Stoppers, do they really work?
by Mall Cop inremember, the topic in the reasoning book, conversation stoppers.
well, did they actually work against you or for you?.
are there conversation stoppers that you use now at your place of work or the bar, or with your significance other, that you use?.
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she would take over the call at the end and try every possible angle to preach more to the householder, pissing them off and turning them into do not calls.
When it comes to saving people from cults, sometimes the Lord works in mysterious ways!